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Game Thread #19: Sacramento Kings at Golden State Warriors - Poll: Keith Smart or Mark Jackson?

Kings (6-14) at Warriors (6-12)

Tipoff: 730pm PST

TV: CSN Bay Area

Radio: KNBR 680

Blog Buddy: Sactown Royalty

Things have gotten so bad for both teams, neither NBA team website has a preview for this game. So let us divert our attention to the more interesting topic. At this point, sitting at 6-12, would you (loyal Warriors fan) rather have Keith Smart, who is 4-9 since he took over, or Mark Jackson? Vote below!

Hit the jump for the preview...

Star-divide

Here are the matchups for tonight's 2012 cellar-dweller-era...

  • Combo guard slot #1: Stephen Curry vs Jimmer Fredette. The Jimmer! This should be a most interesting matchup. Steph on a painful ankle against Jimmer's slow lateral movement. I often joked last year that Jimmer could be a bigger Steph. We'll see. Jimmer's averaged 16.5 ppg in the last four games, making more treys than two-pointers in each of those games.
  • Combo guard slot #2: Monta Ellis vs Tyreke Evans. Man, if we could combine these two into one player, we'd probably have a bonafide elite 2-guard a la Mitch Richmond, albeit with markedly worse outside shooting percentage than the future Hall-of-Famer (yep!). Monta should be able to stay in front of Tyreke, as long as he's trying. On the flip side, Tyreke should be able to outmuscle Monta to the hoop, and probably won't be able to stay in front of Monta. But look for Monta to have a breakout game after deferring to Steph two games ago vs the Blazers, then having a subpar performance against the Thunder.
  • "Swingman" who should be working on the other part: Dorell Wright vs John Salmons. Again, if we could combine these two, we'd have an all-star. Dorell obviously can be a knock-down stand-still spot-up shooter (seems like the more dashes you have to describe yourself, the less likely an all-star you are), while Salmons is particularly good at driving to the hoop while his outside shot is suspect. Warriors assistant Pete Myers coached Salmons during their stays with the Bulls, so hopefully the Warriors can keep Salmons in check. This matchup probably won't be at the forefront because if Brandon Rush comes in and has a solid game, Dorell might be on the bench for awhile. After all, only one of them can play at the same time. It is in the NBA rule book, I think.
  • Unathletic power forward: David Lee vs Jason Thompson. Let's see if D.Lee can continue the good knuckleball shooting. When that's on, against an unathletic defender, D.Lee can be "unstoppable" (baby!). But if that's not falling, yikes. We'll see soon enough, because D.Lee is Option Number Two. According to the NBA media notes, Thompson is shooting 65% through the last three games.
  • Center: AndrEkpe Udoh vs DeMarcus Cousins. Yup, that two-headed monster we have securing the paint starts out as Andris Biedrins then quickly morphs into Ekpe Udoh. Seriously though, per Steiny-Mo, you might see Beans a little more tonight, since he's the better post defender. I didn't think AB had done anything to put himself on the bench after 9 minutes against OKC the other night, but maybe it will help his pysche. Here's the weird line of thinking. He knows he might get yanked, so he further maximizes his opportunities out there knowing he could be back on the bench quick-style.
  • Bench: Once again, it's like the Warriors strengths are exactly what the Kings are missing, and vice versa. I really like the Kings roster upfront: Donte Greene at 6'11", J.J. Hickson, and the project, Hassan Whiteside. For the Warriors, again we'll see if Klay Thompson and Rush can continue stroking it, if Nate Robinson has more spectacular plays than brain farts, and Jeremy Tyler can continue his hustle and slow developmental trend towards the ultimate goal of beasting. My prediction: Klay has an off night because that's what happens with rookies. On the other hand, Nate had a few IQ blunders last game, so expect him to bust out the cape tonight.
  • Washington connection: Nate Robinson vs Isaiah Thomas. These two are very close friends and it might be interesting if they are matched up together at any given point. Per the NBA media notes:
  • Isaiah Thomas is averaging 13.3 ppg inthe last three games. Thomas is shooting .688 (11-16 FG) from the field and .833 (5-6 3pt) from 3-point range in the last two games.

    If you're in the doldrums by both teams' records and Mark Jackson's insistence that the Warriors still have a chance at the playoffs, focus on the performance of DeMarcus Cousins. In Summer League two years ago, you could see the talent oozing and he and John Wall were clearly the two best players that summer. I know that if I were running the Warriors, first of all I'd be particular strong in the psychology side of the game with my staff, and I'd have DeMarcus very high on my list. But some higher-ups just don't know how to deal with players whose passion for the game is scattered all over the place.

    Straight from the NBA media notes...

    DeMarcus Cousins has recorded double-doubles in five in the last six games. Cousins is averaging 15.2 ppg and 11.6 rpg in the last 13 contests.

    I've been poking fun at both teams, but in all seriousness, it's ironic how both franchises have not been the same since the departure of Chris Webber at each location. Ah, memories.

Poll
At this juncture (6-12), who would rather have coaching the Warriors?
Mark Jackson
544 votes
Keith Smart
269 votes

813 votes | Poll has closed

1 recs  |  864 comments

Comments

Also, JJ Hickson might be the worst player getting regular minutes in the NBA.

So don’t feel about about not having him.

He's a better rebounder than anyone on the Warriors :/
just remember how ridicule of keith smart when he took over around this same time until the end.

i never really hated him or anything like that, but WOW were there alot of criticism of him even though it was his first year. But I still voted MJ just because of the defense Mike Malone has brought in. If I could, I would fire MJ or demote him and make Malone the head coach.

To be fair, most of the criticism was based on Smart's horrid rotations whenever he took over for Nellie.

Thats next years plan… managemet needed a scape goat…

Give Beans more minutes, please

15 pts!

smart for sure

Mainly coz Mark Jackson is a douche and should not be a head coach anywhere.

I wish there was an option for neither....

but I voted for Smart only because its obvious he is a band aid and not a permanent fix. Mark Jackson is just not very good, and its not suprising given his ZERO coaching expirience…..

We need to draw more fouls in the game.

Wining by 20 the first 3 Qs because we were drawing fouls vs Memphis, then on the 4th we only draw 1 foul or something?? Same with the game against OKC. Not to mention we lost the game to Magics because we draw too many fouls on a bad FT shooter. We need to draw more fouls, and the best way to do this is to put Beans in the game! Let him attack and draw fouls, we care if he missed all the FTs. It is not like DLee, Monta, Udoh and others don’t miss FTs. I said let Beans go for the records, draw 35 fouls or something. at least he will get 5pts out of those and he get to practice his FT shooting in a real game!

We need the refs to CALL more fouls

You really think the Warriors don’t earn ANY fouls whatsoever over 16 minute stretches? I find that hard to believe when you see some of the touch fouls they call. I just don’t see that many touch fouls being called in the Warriors’ favor.

Not that it matters, really. If the Warriors could build and HOLD a lead, getting fouls or not shouldn’t matter that much.

If we put Beans in the game, for sure it will get foul calls

and that’s what we need~

If you hadn't noticed

Beans is absolutely terrified to shoot a free throw. He avoids anything that could possibly end up with him and ball anywhere near the free throw line. He doesn’t even dive for loose balls near the free throw line.

He won’t shoot free throws. He doesn’t even like to make moves that could earn him fouls. That’s a big problem for a guy who is supposed to live in the paint.

That sounds like a easy fix

Beans said he does whatever MJ said. All MJ has to is to tell him is to get more foul draws and practice his FT in a real game.

To me, when someone “afraid” to get to the FT line is more about what coach tells or not telling him to do.

To me, when someone "afraid" to get to the FT line is more about what coach tells or not telling him to do.

How can you say that? It’s pretty clear cut, he won’t cut to rim unless NO ONE is around

just tell him to go for it. Beans is willing to listen to Smart to do post-up so it shouldn’t be hard for MJ to tell him to cut on every single perception.

I said Smart

but that’s only because he had SOME head coaching experience. I like Jackson, though, and I think he will ultimately have success.

But frankly, this question is hard to answer. Both coaches have losing records largely due to highly-flawed rosters and early injuries to key players (Smart has now has two such experiences). I wouldn’t expect Red Auerbach or Phil Jackson to do much better in this situation. Give Smart or Jackson a full roster, no injuries, with healthy Lebron, D. Wade and Chris Bosh and they might have more success than they are having now.

In short; the jury is still out.

Center Change

Time for Tyler to start his new role as the starting center for the Warriors. I want to see him go up against Cousins. I am finally done with Beans and his 0% from the line. If we are going to lose, I want some entertainment and laughing at AB just doesn’t cut it any longer.

And it's....heads, so Jackson.
I wanted to vote for C

none of the above

Tank tank tank

redundant, redundant, reduntant
More importantly

Reggie is playing his first game of the season vs the Lakers tonight.

Biedrins hasn't attempted a shot in 3 games

Wow. What a joke of a player he’s become

Beans is shooting at 70%

the coach needs to make things work for him.

Biedrins has made 14 free throws in the last THREE SEASONS combined

Yes, you read that right. That’s 14 free throws over 107 games. At this point, he’s been broadcasting his aversion of the charity stripe for so long, that it’s a little insulting that he has to go to this length to get his wish to be benched permanently. He clearly hasn’t wanted to play for 3 years.

It’s stonishing that Biedrins is still allowed to call himself a professional. And do you believe he’s getting $9M/yr to jog around the floor for abot 20 minutes/game just to pass the ball to Curry or Ellis?

Warrior blunder #875: NOT USING THE AMNESTY on Andris Biedrins.

He is a 24 year old kid with a nice hair MJ. Coach needs to tell him what to do. Beans still rebounds, blocks and defense well. Just tell him it is okay to draw fouls. I know Beans gets offense rebounds and then pass it out to teammates, but at least he is not making turnovers.

Missing poll option

Popovich

Andris Biedrins

15 points and 12 rebounds

I’m calling it now!

+1

Count me in on this one!

ILoveWarriorsGirls...

…are you Andris Biedrins in disguise???

Or a family member of his?

I have to wonder

Are the Warriors secretly tanking right now? They’re still talking about playoffs and stuff, but they keep losing… maybe Mark Jackson is smarter than we thought.

I have thought the same thing. At the most opportune times we seem to blunder perfectly.

I voted Smart. Only because we were more entertaining last year. If we are going to suck, do it in style.

I think we got this win tonight

Just play smart, no stupid fouls or turnovers, and stay cool.
The Kings will self-destruct.

Ever since they traded Kevin Martin, the Kings just don’t scare me anymore.

Be careful, you might get in hot water around here for actively rooting for the Warriors to win.

Cus is going to go off. The W’s have no one to stop him.

Beans will stop him

and Udoh will piss him off

and Udoh will piss him off

hahahahahaha

Dubs don't really need anyone to stop him

meh, he’s still pretty inefficient, I’ll be happy as long as we don’t let him get our bigs in foul trouble

But as an aside, I agree with I <3 Warriors girls…between Beans and Udoh, we have plenty of defensive prowess to match up against Cuz

It's a win-win situation

The kings played the spurs right down to the wire at home so they are improving. Despite the apparent firing/hiring evidence to the contrary I still maintain that smart has more coaching experience than jackson so he get’s my vote.
Outcome of the game really means only that one of our NorCal teams gets a step closer to a first round draft pick in a strong draft year so life is good.

Kings can be pretty good..

Their backcourt is lethal. With Thornton coming off the bench is just amazing. Then with Cousins and Chuck Hayes who always seem to dominate us. Donte Greene always seems to fluke some threes against us too.. I reckon we’ll lose, not cause we’re tanking. Just cause they’re probably better.

I reckon we’ll lose, not cause we’re tanking. Just cause they’re probably better.

They are a guard dilemma and a lack of SF away from being better but they got potential.

crap, forgot about Hayes

…there goes our rebounding advantage!

Also in Kings favor, Smart really knows our players, should be able to convert that knowledge into some sort of practical advantage

crap, forgot about Hayes there goes our rebounding advantage!

he might still be hurt. He tweaked his sore arm on the last play of the spurs game.

well, here's hoping he's got a case of the BWright

because it sounds like he is available tonight (I guess they’ll just let him do the whole Lethal Weapon shoulder thing for the rest of the season)

Coach Keith Smart says Chuck Hayes is fine and will play at Golden State Tuesday.

Play all three rookies at leasat 15minutes each please!

Just to see what they really have. We are going no where so we might as well see what we have in our rookies.

What about MFJ comment after last game

“biedrens is the only center on our roster” Comcast just made a joke about Barron not liking the comment, but what about Tyler? Like he’s not even considered for more minutes

Great Poll Question

I wonder what the result in Sacramento would be?

MUST LOSE STUATION

Can we get some rookie minutes here? Or some Monta stat padding?

Smart played Vlad Rad a lot.

not smart..

Radman is amazing in NBA2K12
Smart

’cause if we fire our coach and make Smart coach he will play Cousins 40 minutes a night and then we will start winning!

Yours Truly,

Kings FO

P.S. We will start winning right?

I think the big question is

Will Chuck Hayes get another unlikely triple double?

i wouldn't call it unlikely ;)
He averaged like two assists a game or something... until he played us
yes but all those games weren't with david lee defending him
I don't think a quadruple double is out of the question

Second coming of Hakeem

O.T. but Elton Brand is such a clown..

He wrote a letter saying how sorry he is to the Clippers fans on leaving the Clippers. He also said he wants to join the Clippers and have his jersey retired in staples center. Lol what a loser! Oh and good luck on tonight’s game game guys.

sidenote

SSSS (super small sample size) alert
jeremy lin per 36 this season
22.5 pts, 6 reb, 12 ast, 2.25 stl, 61.3% TS

give the man more minutes! lol.

Sounds like Jim has a cold

Wish he’d just take the day off

Even the announcers should tank?
And listen to Fitz do the entire game???
Is Curry guarding Jimmer again a good idea?
WTF.. blacked out on NBA ticket

why is this game getting blackedout???? dude…. lame

anyone have video for the game
http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/105117/1/watch-golden-state-warriors-vs-sacramento-kings.html
great game in memphis tonight
wtf was that pregame ritual?
Just like Keith Smart

MJ runs a play for Biedrins to start the game

I guess that's why Jackson was excited for Beans, get him in the Keith Smart mode of

“I’m going to force the ball to you in the post early”.

Take a shot every time Cus doesn't cry for a foul.

(You wont need any liquor to play)

Look at Fitz, he calls Cuz out on FG% and yet if he was on the Warriors he'd praise him and how he's not reached his potential yet.
There's Biedrins with a soft hook, nice
Beans

as always early foul

Beans is back! Where's all the haterz nao!?
Biedrins going for 30/20 tonight

calling it now

Wake up Monta, Cousins just thieved you
Lazy as hell, Monta. Just awful.
Monta has horrible dribbling skills. Gosh.
DOUBLE U TEA EFF

cousins got monta’s cookies?!?!?

Then bricks a jumper. Klay please.
Wow Cousins stole the ball from a guard
Monta got

pick by a big man

pick and pop, Lee you need to hit that
I guess the Warriors are rusty after having 3 days off
exactly what I gonna say
Another Biedirns play, soft hook + 1!
uh-oh, free throw. GAMEOVER
Steph really has stop those behind the back passes
i feel like beans reads the bitching of fans lol
by "b*tching"

do you mean, legit criticisms?

yes lol

speaking from his pov

IT'S ANDRIS' GAME

FEED THE BEAST

That was bad post defense by cousins.
Biedrins made a FT!

It won’t be 0%!

It's like a pitcher in baseball who gets a hit

“Now he’s got an average”

MADE FREE THROW!!!!

broke the seal

Beans got involve
Biedrins another aggressive post
Wow Fitz

is excited with the FT

fitz;; AND HE MAKES THE FREETHROW!!!!
it's like halley's comet; once in a lifetime event
Biedrins has had three hook shots

i like getting beans involved. i don’t think he’d touched the ball in the past 2 games

Monta finding DWright on the inside!

sweet

Lucky Dorell came in
Monta everything but the finish
JT killing us.
Oh, so Jason Thompson is the one getting the triple double tonight
thats what it looks like
the fuck was that
I guess there's quite a few Kings fans in the crowd
Way to watch that sequence Lee
Hey, he needs to save his energy for offense
good decision

Curry almost went for that

Monta 1 handed steal, Curry fast break, Dwright finish!

niiiice

Cousins is STRONG
He's got a lot of potential
Sac was smart to choose him over Westphal
Kings made the right decision. You don't give up on a talented big man.
Also, Westphal was wrong to let locker room stuff get out

No matter how bad it is, you never reveal stuff that happens behind closed doors

exactly. Who in that org lets PW release his own statement? #lolfail.
Nice patience on the fastbreak
just like MJ drew it up
wow nice shot for DW
DWright 3 after a failed drive

exactly how it’s drawn in the playbook

DWright 3 after a failed drive

You mean like every drive he makes? :)

haha

has DWright EVER had a successful drive and finish or drive and pass???

That was a no no no, yes from Wright.
Monta is disgusting
Im sure Smart

knows Monta in and out

Hmm, didn't know they were sexting buddies.
maybe he snuck into the locker room and stole monta's phone while he was playing?
hey we get a kickball call!!!!
Dwright just throw it in
kick ball saved Monta's ugly drive/turnover
He's got that Stephen Jackson kind of mopping thing goin

you know what i mean.

think he makes it past the deadline still a warrior? I think it looks less and less likely with each loss.

It seems like the last 3-4 games he just kinda stopped caring.

I think if we were to ever realistically turn it around here with Monta

he’d have to accept and embrace a little discipline and a sized down role. But I don’t think Monta’s ego would ever allow that here, so writings on the wall. Well, could be.

I just hope he doesn’t implode before we get a trade done, or come out asking for one killing his value

Or the Stephen Jackson Art of Communication.
more biedrins please
Ref finally call

a kick ball

movin on up.. to the sky..
isn't it about time for keith smart to put in acie law?
how about

Radman

He's got Francisco Garcia now
of course, the refs fall for the Cousins flop

Lee is not THAT strong

is JB sick?

I didn’t see the pregame

yeah, he sounds sick
Jimmer drive made us look bad
Lee nice reverse!
david lee == dr. j
why is fitz always so stunned when the other team is shooting better than their season average?
funny how other teams get lucky against the dubs
i must be a miracle

it just can’t be piss poor warrior defense

a lot of

offensive foul call are horrible these day

I just love Lee at the point

passes like a point guard

but the problem with Lee at the point is no offensive rebs
Too bad he can't play like a Power forward.

Zing!

haha

that’s why we need a power center!

To be fair

He’s been racking up a ton of minutes as our Center, especially since Kwame went down

yup, I love small ball ya'll! Great for the tank.
Monta's got Jimmer on him!? Why doesn't he have 40 yet?
he needs a jumbaco
No one needs Jumbaco!

No one!

stream

anyone have a good link to a stream. i don’t have cable right now :(

wth is up with montas shot
too many passes
That's a bad decision by Reke'. He's got to shoot that.
GREAT close out by monta
need to go back to andris in the post
Man i missed a Biedrens made free throw

guess i’m going to have to wait another year and a half for the next one

Smart

look like he wanna cry

sounds like ill feelings to me

“bite your tongue”?

To be fair, Cousins is the best Center in the league right?
Monta looks off and rusty
he hasnt been hitting shot at all lately
i know, i wonder what's wrong
I think his knee is still bothering him?

He injured it earlier this year iirc?

apparently smart still doesn’t realize he had idiotic rotations

Whoa, Cousins despite the help defender Curry coming in
call the cops

i just saw david lee get abused in the post

Their phones must be ringing every minute
The Dream Shake? Really?
So, just got the feed up and running

Did Barnett catch a cold?

Cousins-Hakeem. Lee-Robinson

why do we stop posting up beans after it was working well?

try to get cousins' #2
I really really miss Beans' ability to rebound
Does that correlate with how our bigs turn to wet toilet paper when going against any kind of massive big man?
jim's voice keeps making me want to clear my throat
Curry, what was that?

too late for a 2 for 1

Bah Curry

Late on the 2 for 1

Damn, How many rebounds cousins have? Feels like he's huuungry out there.
he is a big boy, one of the heaviest guys in the league
thompson has more boards than cousins
Yeah he's boarding pretty well too.
4 for cuz, 6 for JT
curry has 6 assists ??????
he's having a pretty good floor game
even still, 6? Only one I remember was the fast break to DWright
that's home cooking for you

Ask Van Exel about his 29 assist game some time

happens when your post players make paint shots
8 assists between Curry and Ellis on 11 made shots.
play by play

10:52 1-2 Andris Biedrins makes 3-foot two point shot (Stephen Curry assists)
9:03 5-4 Andris Biedrins makes two point shot (Stephen Curry assists)
6:18 12-11 Dorell Wright makes two point shot (Stephen Curry assists)
4:11 18-16 David Lee makes 1-foot two point shot (Stephen Curry assists)
3:56 18-18 Monta Ellis makes 20-foot jumper (Stephen Curry assists)
1:24 23-22 David Lee makes 1-foot two point shot (Stephen Curry assists)

Good thing

Marcus Thorton is not playing on this game. He is a certified Warriors killer

good thing Vlad Rad isnt here: Certified Kings Killer
Lee can play D on jump shooters that are shorter than him!
technically he fell for the pump fake lol
You'd think he would be used to it playing with Dorell
Well

He was smart enough to know he just needed to go straight up? lol

"They owe that team something"

Yeah a 1st round pick Fitz

Nah, that's impossible
wow, is javie working this game?
"He is quick to anger."-that sounded like a Star Wars quote
Battle of the Midgets
Udoh was a tad late rolling to the hoop

but at least he hit the shot

I don't think Udoh is very good as the roller in the PnR.
Lol let the Kings shoot it and the Warriors win. They let the Kings get 2nd and 3rd chances in the lane and it could get dicey.
time for the chuck hayes experience

triple team him!

Klay great defense there
Damn it Nate

What you doing?

Nate's being gross, I want Jenkins!
where's the walk?
Jeremy Tyler will lead the way!
John Salmons sucks
how can you stutter step multiple times on one dribble and not get called for a travel?
great tackle by brandon rush!
Wow Brandon Rush bailed Hickson out
How did PW have Hickson starting over JT? I don't remember was JT hurt in the beginning of the year?
no he started hayes and cousins together

and brought them off the bench and chose Hickson over thompson to fill in for Hayes. both are highly inconsistent though

Oh yea, that sounds right. All I know is that I was seeing Hickson do a whole lot of nothing on the court and not much JT.
That Tyreke drive and pass reminded me of Monta

I’ve read that they’re similar in that they’re both scorers first trying to develop play making skills

Glad to see Tyler playing
3 in the key -_______-
oh my goodness
Oof, Tyreke sucking in too much of our defense that time
Bricking everything. Even Klay and Rush
yeah, give them time to get the 3 day rust off
Bench unit being scrubby right now
Did Tyreke strain his hamstring?
thats what it look like when he went to plant he pulled it
down goes tyreke
If Tyreke goes down we have a chance
he better stay in then

keep the tank on track

i guess it must have been a cramp for Tyreke
can't buy a bucket
Tyler nice rebound
Nate finally scoring for the bench
I don't mind that defensive set but that's where lack of elite length hurts.
Warriors defense didn't communicate, left a man open
Udoh with the finish
haha

thanks for not catching the ball, Garcia

i like how he didn’t even seem to care

This game is horrid.
Garcia is his team's own tank sergeant.
Wow the Kings suck

Battle of who is less worse

ugh, that's a dumb idea fitz
Klay hitting it from around the screen
Why can't we have cutters like that?
Evans is great at slashing
Rush Hour 3 will NEVER miss another 3!
it's automatic
I wouldn't put Ekpe on the block unless he had a physical advantage over his opponent.
lol that was horrific.
Udoh is getting absolutely dominated...by Hickson?
Udoh is getting schooled when tries to make an offensive move
Hickson is not a good player

Yet he blocks Ekpe

Why he is not a good player?
Takes too many jump shots, doesn't post up
Smart

pulling a Monta on Tyreke playing him a lot of minutes

I've only seen a couple Kings games

But I think he really is

why are we so scared to run post ups for beans, yet we constantly yet udoh get schooled

Why are we posting up Udoh

Do we want to win… on second thought let’s keep posting him up

…I bet Monroe could take JJ Hickson.

chris rene! i don't miss jessica alba AT ALL
i don't know who that guy is

but holy crap he looks like an extreme douche

which offense do you think looks better?

Warriors? Kings? Neither?

there's offense in this game?
How can they get to the line more when they're whole philosophy is to take outside jumpers?

Things that make you go hmmm….

Monta can post up more
It would be awesome to have a true low post prescence like Monroe

From what I hear he has a face up game now… SMH

Lee nice box out on that rebound
What in blazing hell was that Durrel?
Hello, DWright, you're not a passer
WTF was that pass
Maybe he really should just go work at Ubisoft. (anyone?)
Jim Barnett is not taking any BS tonight

He trashed Dorell for passing instead of shooting

He's hammered on Dayquil!
it is true

he could be Durant on that sequence shoot over a small defender

Dorell with a case of Montardness.
biedrins post play please
Beans first rebound in 3 games!

At least that’s what it feels like

Everything Jim sounds deadpan hilarious
There you DWright! Shoot it!

Nice passing from Curry to Lee to Monta to DWright

CURRY SHOOT THE FUCKING BALL FUCK
we wont win with curry taking 3 shots a half
Oooof, Kings can run plays better than we can

They had a driver and then a baseline cutter that time.

We are a defensive mindset team

not!

this game is so bad

it’s hazardous to your health

No toughness inside with this lineup. And not just tonight. The last two years have been especially soft.
This is a team that gave up 92 points in the paint to Denver.....

And we can get nothing

well when you stop going to what was working…

not even looking for andris anymore

“Well, Dre, you got your 5 so stop complaining about touches”

i bet we post him up 3 more times to start the 3rd. such a stupid pattern

Give the ball to Lee more?
curry needs to shott the ball stop deffering to monta
Kings with a fugly turnover
Kobe, er, Monta drawing FTs
Dumb reach by Reke, he had Monta with nowhere to go
That's some double fugly bball
WE'RE LOSING TO THIS?!!?!?
Wow this is ugly

Both teams are aiming for that high pick

Kings are doing their best Jekyl & Hyde performance.
look at biedrins roll HARD to the hoop that time
omg this game...

…hurts my eyes

What the hell Monta

you are better than that

shoot that steph
Why would you take that Monta!?

really curry? you’re going to pass up a jumper to give monta one?

Garcia fell for the

pump fake

wtf was that monta!?
barnett just wants this game to end and have a cup of hot tea

so do i at this point. this is pathetic

oh look, ah monta end of quarter iso. those always work well

This is ugly ugly ugly

I don’t know why the Warriors think they are a playoff team

And two like 30 foot 3 point attempts
I'm pretty sure the higher ups don't believe that still.

Lacob for example sounds far less overtly optimistic about his guys.

Well, I shouldn't say pretty sure, I've been pretty sure before and the Warriors still throw a curveball or two somewhere.
WHY ISNT STEPH SHOOTING THE BALL
Curry need his assist
Think Curry is confuesd by Keith Smart's presence

He’s waiting to get yanked from the game

ugly ugly ugly fugly
this half should be classified as a crime against humanity
this is not as exciting as the past kings-warriors games

ugh

Uh both teams have sucked for a while
Think he was talking about

How in the past games would be like 140-136

Okay that makes sense
yeah exactly two octane offenses.

not so much anymore

Was it Kings offense that good or Warriors defense just that bad?
Well

It sure felt like Kevin Martin would get 40 FTA every time he played us lol

All the Warriors fans in attendance are being treated to one hell of a game

Key word being “hell”

isaiah thomas == acie law

anyone see jimmer?

I’m not sure how, but this game is making my hair hurt.

someone get the team some halftime jumbacos
I love you guys

your snarkiness is awesome

I hope Mark Jackson starts his press conference by saying

“This is a playoff team”

i DARE him to start it that way
"I want winners!"
my personal fav, "We'll check the tape"
so why has monta lost all semblance of scoring ability?
scoring?

we are a defensive mindset team

he knows he's being traded

seriously, no idea.

via twitter guy

Teams have the playbook on Ellis – take away his right hand for penetration and he settles for jumpers (or turnovers).

He knee is bothering him

Not as explosive

mentally checkout out??
naw, thats never been an issue, hes still trying

just looks really frustrated

please, Monta has checked out defensively for years.
never mentioned defense

im talking about his scoring

lol, well yea but honestly I didn't notice a difference.
on that telestrator, I still love Lee's passing and vision from the point spot
Speaking of this

I am reminded of stories about how Nellie used to have a point forward, which allowed him to run 2 shooting guards on the floor. Wonder if MJ will do this with Lee at the point, and Monta and Curry as scorers

I hope this game is over before Kay & Peele comes on
twitter convo/ i agree

Curry needs to assert himself. He’s up against a defensively weak rookie and doing nothing with it so far.

the reply from a diff guy

He’s checked out, mentally

Jimmers on Monta
they must not be watching the game because reke is on steph
still defensively weak
Yeah, Curry is AFK right now. Maybe he's still got the yips from his weak ankle.

Still disappointing game from him so far.

AFK?
ankle feared k...?
gaming term I've used before away from keyboard.
it's basically the gaming term for someone who is MIA
Curry went from 15+ shots the last few games...

…tonight he might not even shoot 10.

Hmm, no Biedrins post up to start the 3rd

jackson’s not smart (keith that is)

i know, but it worked to start the game

i know but smart would always run beans at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd

yeah, i know

that was supposed to be about building Biedrins confidence

MJ needs to try going small, use speed to beat muscle
wtf is going on

steph looks like he is done with this team monta sucking bad

trade everyone

TANK TANK TANK

Mark Jackson's slowness

shows through the cracks of this offense.

Currys' body language

not good

It looks like Curry wants to run

But Jackson telling them to set it up.

this game makes me wish the 49ers won :(
There's a Biedrins post up
A Biedrins post up guys!!!
All Biedrins does is jump hook
Of course, Biedrins gets called for a foul when Cousins just fell down
lol @ fitz saying good box out by beans and complaining about the foul
Beans must be crazy strong in that one arm, ragdoll'd Cus
Where is Earl Barron

anyways

Biedrins nice block of Cousins, and not fouling
This game makes me want to watch soccer
I like watching soccer

Live though, can’t watch it on television

I want to go to a crazy English-hooligan soccer game

looks like jackson is finally learning that if you're not going to play beans in the 4th quarter

you don’t have to pull him for foul trouble

Monta kicking to DWright 3

there’s a play that worked

so far

Monta kicking to Dwright always work

Curry finally hitting a j
How do we not get back on a made basket
Tyreke ran into Biedrins, turnover, heh
Aww Monta

Just take the shot

I wouldn't call Biedrins a brick wall
Has David Lee gone inside once this game?
Do you mean a post move?
Just on a non-jumpshot type shot.

Well he just dunked so there’s one.

Ok this is the opposite

of 3rd quarter collapse

i would think the opposite of a 3rd quarter collapse would be dominating the 3rd quarter

not just gaining 1 point

well better than losing

a big lead after the 1st half

Kings are a carp team

yet they are up

what does that tell you about us?

we always play down to the opponents, but this is rediculous

when curry gets things going

you can tell the team plays better

Curry needs to play more like the Portland game
Somethings up with Curry

body language

stop passing it to monta everytime
Wow, Monta passed up a WIIIDE open 3
Then he took a contested shot with Curry open on the wing
Lee should have shot that

he had a Biedrins screen

Huzzah! a fast break jam!
hahaha Monta, just awful
Finally a fastbreak
i don't know what to say about that sequence
Curry pass a lot of shot
At least the Warriors are running

Biedrins BAD foul, #5

At least he's out there to make foul #5. AMIRITE?!
haha, that's true

that’s to Biedrins credit

he did stop the layup
Biedrins is a 100% FT shooter

for tonight

Cousins has a midrange shot???
He's going to be a monster
I think Kings fans would love it if he was less liberal with that shot.
looked like it had no arc
is it just me or when Barnett has a cold he's the ultimate pessimist?
hard not to be a pessimist when you're losing to sacramento at home

he’s bee pretty optimistic about beans

man warriors playing pathetic

why aren’t we attacking…so passive

Kings are way more physical team.
somehow, we're only down 5
Cause it's the Kings
Maybe some of the times we should pull Ellis before we pull Curry
Udoh nice contest of Salmons shot there
kings missed the guy underneath the basket on that inbounds play

whew

is this a emotional game for

Monta and Curry seeing Smart on the other side of the bench

Curry is afraid that Smart is going pull him at any moment
Nice pass from Udoh to Monta under the hoop
Nate the Microwave off the bench

Matt Steinmetz @MSteinmetzCSN
Monta Ellis now 12-for-43 from field over past 2 1/2 games.

Yes but he can score at will!
Wow, that was a monster HIckson rebound

why can’t we do that?

because our PF is Lee

not athletic..

lee is actually pretty athletic
he's quick

not a power jumper though

If we're going be bad..

..can we at least be exciting?

The bench was pretty excited compared to watching the starting 5.
Nate around the Udoh screen, another jumper!
2nd chance point

is a B!*+(h cmon rebound guys

Ugh, foul like a man
that was a great pass by Isiah
Monroe wouldnt have done that.
ya cuz he doesnt defend
...fine....

Then it would have just been a bucket and not an and 1 opportunity.

Monroe will rip Chuck Hayes

shoulder on that foul

Run a play for Klay maybe?

ask and ye recieve

Your wish was granted
You know,

we’ve had some ugly losses with Keith Smart last season, but did you ever feel THIS annoyed at the Warriors last season?

i think ive become numb to the pain of being a warriors fan
I dont really remember

But I cringe whenever I see Acie Law and Radman on the floor. Monta play almost every minute every night

No

If you look at our pace, it’s above league average, but nowhere where we used to be. We’re more annoyed because we don’t see fastbreak basketball anymore

how can our pace be above the league avg?

Must be the bench pace

The weird thing is

Our offense and defense are about the same, compared to the league

that's a headscratcher
Basically

there has been no improvement (especially defensively, which was SUPPOSED to be what the coaches focused on), but we’re playing much slower. That means we’re not as exciting but just as bad.

i can believe this

But look we only have 5 TO

smart was annoying because although the players played hard he had the wrong players on the floor. this is annoying cuz no one is playing hard

Hayes is 6'4

Chuck Wagon FTW!

Yep, Udoh couldn't finish that pick and roll

but at least he executed it correctly

Makes me so nervous when Dom brings the ball up
So much passing for naught boo
Stop the presses, Rush missed a 3
OMG fast break FAAAAAILURE
the rest of the kings had already given up on the play too

thomas was the only one trying

yeah, exactly

i want us to lose this game, because we don’t deserve a win

Udoh defending the rim!
Udoh coming alive now
Klay: that was horribad
You'd think Klay would want to play well to show up the Kings?
Look at Keith

afraid of the Warriors bench

Udoh NICE offensive rebound tap out
lol now why wasn't that a back court violation?
Warriors didnt have control, just knocked back out

Though some refs have called it lol

Yeah, but if Ekpe is the only one who touched it, I dunno. It's just a curious situation that could be called I guess.
maybe it was stlil a "loose ball" after Udoh's tap out
Like I said

Loose ball, and knocking it out isn;t suppose to establish control.

Rush hour 3!

He ran without the ball to the corner and Nate found him. Good play

Had literally no idea we were winning.
Look at our bench
Time to pull a Spurs

and just leave the bench in for the rest of the game.

Good D
Sigh, the zone again

The zone is just a symbol of how we suck on defense

Our Bench is better than Kings starter
i wish they sold those RUN TMC bobble heads at the online store
We need starters back in. Monta can lead the tank.
That pic of Reke
One thing I hated about Smart

he never trust his bench. Maybe a couple of guys but not the whole bench. He got that from Nellie

Why are we posting up Udoh
square peg, round hole situation.

every single game…

another 24 sec violation!

take advantage!

Kings are just a bad team
Udoh drawing the charge!

He’s making an impact here in the 4th

Udoh doing a much better job on Cousins.
Wow

King collapsing hard, too bad the Warriors arent good enough to really take advantage of it

if the roles were reversed, how much would fitz be going crazy on udoh drawing a charge rather than trying to block the shot?

Wow, how did Dominic finish that?
Finally offensive foul

Tyreke is damn tired Smart fault

haha, a shoe loose in the lane
Kings are just awful

They do not know how to run offense

and we're only up 8 smh
both teams have a lot of flaws yes
like not being able to make layups on the break

klay and steph I’m looking at you

From WHAT FFFFFFFF WOO NATE
Nate crazy shot falling down!
wtf nate that was awesome
all nate really had to do was cut and isaiah wouldn't have been able to even be near him
surprised cousins only has 4 turnovers, thats like a season low for him
he averages less than 3...

not really that funny

raw stats dont tell the whole story

his usage rate and ts% would suggest otherwise. he may not commit official turnovers but the gist is he is reckless with the ball

we might beat a bad team woooo
Nate should pull a cross over

on Isiah without the shoes

Our Bench

Lol how good is our bench. They brought us up down 2 to now up 6

our bench isn’t very good, the kings are just really bad

usually when we rely on the bench

good things happen. Look at other games man

Somehow we tipped it in!
Udoh another block!
I do love when Udoh gets pumped
Udoh + energy = :)
oh look, Lacob is here to watch his playoff team.

hopefully watching the bench in the 4th will make him want to trade the starters for draft picks….. please?

Yea I was thinking this is good evidence that your starters are not getting it done.

The bench has carried this team tonight.

Rush does not miss!!!!!
Dominic rebound, Rush hour 3!
and that was helped by a Udoh box out
Ekpes going honey baked ham!
Lacob is pump up
Let the Bench close this out
I'd say MJ stays with this unit until they fail or get tired
kings dont have the guard depth to come back
The reserves SHOULD finish it tonight. The starters were borrible.
How do you miss that call?
In real time, I thought Udoh actually blocked that
Time to attack the rim and get that free call the refs owe us
refs are always against us
yup even against the Kings
a lot of miss call at Oracle
Darn it

Rush foot on line

Rush hour 2

i saw his foot on the line

Rush hour rainbow 3!
HOOOOLY SHIIIIIT RUSH!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys

how are you doing against the Kings so far?

winningggggggggg
UNCONSCIOUS

keep feeding him

At least the starters are all on their feet, rather than whining
why would they whine?
I guess 'mope' would be a better word.

And because they’re the “starters” and have all been benched

cant think of any examples of that in history ever in the NBA

where the bench comes on and plays well and the starters “mope”

maybe an individual once in a while, but even that is rare

I'm sorry, keep trying, i'm sure you'll get better at thinking.
tried to let this go but,

Seriously, you’ve never heard of NBA starters being angry they were benched/not playing? Are you sure you’re thinking of real life and not a video game?

Well, that probably does it. There goes the tank. :/
RUSH AND UDOHHHHHHHHHHH
Maguire too rebound machine
LOL Lee tryin to do a body bump
There is some real chemistry with the bench

moving without the ball, players knowing where to find others

they also play defense, which helps
exactly

Coach need to play them more than our starter

and they defend better

Rush again

look at Klay post up and assist

start the reservs lmao
Man I was saying that

since the Memphis game

excellent for the tank

Not sure how happy I am with this win

Warriors still need that pick, they are not a good team, they need to tank

Sadly, I feel the same way
i think it's about time to accept that the warriors are not good enough to make the playoffs, but too good to get a top 7 pick without some major lottery help
so root for winsssssssssss

we’ve always known that haven’t we?

yes but there was always hope for the tank

it’s pretty clear they have no intentions of tanking though.

tanking's a pipe dream

it won’t happen with this current roster, it’ll have to come in the form of a trade

or some major injuries
Well, they will keep our hopes up

until that winning streak when it doesn’t matter

BRush is too wet!
if Riley and his staff can build such a bench

maybe he can build a starting team just as good some day

unfortunately building a good starting 5 requires spending and good drafting

one or two bad contracts on the payroll and then its strictly drafting which can be a crapshoot most times anyway

Unfortunately finding subs are easy. Every GM in the league is looking for viable starters.
bench unit needs to close this game
spoke too soon lol

mama,here goes that rush again!

I think the Kings scout and coaches concentrate on our starter
nate airball

here comes a collapse

Warriors defense stuffing Tyreke
LOL swaggg from Maguire
Uh oh, only up 6

But the Warriors did play defense though

they tired TIMEOUT
c'mon bench dont go out like the spurs did Sunday
Idiot. What are you doing Udoh!?
Udoh, did a lot of good things, until he fouled Cousins with the shotclock going down
Udoh gone

Please no small ball. Beans time

Damn it
I don't understand
DLee-McGuire front court

Still no Beans

sigh, they cant hack him anymore MJ its the final two minutes
here comes lee!!!!
I'm not sure this Kings team could beat some college teams
without Thornton they'd go to the wire with the best college team right now

but they’d still crush everyone else outside the top 5

I dunno, the disparity between even the best college team and an NBA team is rather large.
oh no fully healthy they'd crush everyone

but if we count injuries they may sweat out a 10-15 point win against the 2-3 best teams, thats it

you're not serious...

all NBA teams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best college teams

anyone who’s ever believed otherwise should plead temporary insanity

exactly what I said
there are the rare occasions when college teams are stacked with NBA talent
NBA experience does count you know

Tyreke and Cousins were great college players. No College team would stand a chance no matter how loaded they were.

if lebron had gone to college

i would guess that his team could have given a bad nba team plenty of trouble.

same with dwight
or if Lee was two years younger

and played with Noah, Horford, Brewer, Speights, etc for more than one year

like if he went to Ohio State

and by his junior year was playing with Oden, Conely, and Cook

I'd be surprised.

Not with good players only staying for a year or two. Every player on the Kings was a star in college. Jimmer was one of the best i the nation and look how much trouble he is having in the pros.

any time you have the best player on the court, you have a chance

and the best player on the court is not always a player on the nba team

a chance...

is not having the better chance

at any given time, anyone has a chance against anyone

but NBA teams should always be heavy favorites over college teams

top to bottom, the talent just doesn’t compare, and what a lot of college players are coached to do (even on teams with well-respected coaches), just doesn’t work if they’re going up against an NBA teams

zone, and long 3s and runners will not win you a game in the nba in most cases, even when the talent is even. i can’t imagine the chances when it’s not.

no

just no…

that goes for every player that’s ever played.

could they win ONE game if they were matched up? yeah, it’s possible, and the small chance is of course greater with superstars like LeBron or Dwight. but they’d have to play an amazing game AND get good play from everyone around them, as well as see a down game from the NBA team in general.

there chances remain rather insignificant

and all nba teams are stacked with nba talent

and it goes deeper than the top 3 or top 5…

which college teams right now have a player better than the best player on any NBA team?

which are better at the best 2 positions?

best at top 3?

I’d start out with 0, and it’d continue down the line as the disparity only got bigger and bigger

Especially if they play NBA rules

Longer 3pt range, longer shot clock

Oops,

Shorter shot clock

They are still NBA players

so I am sure they can beat any top team in College

Yeah I guess

I’m just shocked at how awfully they run their offense

lack of discipline and maturity

playing college teams though they’d get away with it. not against other pro teams

well, to be fair

they had a coaching change recently, and i read it’s like a “floating training camp” right now

can i get a Rush heat check
Beans needs to bring back his spiky hair
only way for him to get his double doubles back
Kings obviously need an actual coach
i realize that the bench is playing well

but can’t we put someone in for klay? steph would surely be better, no?

must be sending a message

Klay playing with energy, gets to stay in

Klay would be awesome if he could create his own shot.

He set up Rush for 2 of his 3’s

Klay doing some drive and kicks too. About the only guy on team except Rush doing that and Rush always turns it over when he does.

I suppose MJ trying to keep Curry and Monta accountable

For their pretty bad games

good
I would say he should do the same for Lee

but we have only Biedrins after Udoh fouled out, and he needs to be held accountable too

Nah

Dlee played well enough.

Curry and Monta were just awful.

he, individually got beat up on the boards

and inside defensively

he did not play any better overall than Steph or Monta

I think the bench is just being rewarded for their good play.
I don't think MJ has any axe's to grind just yet.
Tyreke is damn tired

Smart fault

David Lee comes in and...

gives up an O board and fouls Cousins…

thats what happens when we go small ball
well yea

but he was heads up with him and couldn’t keep him off the boards. mister “I don’t have a good game if I don’t get double-digit boards…”

Ekpe prob would do the same thats why he fouled out
Kings just waited to late to go on this run.

Barring any horrific late second collapse.

Why is Curry and Ellis out?
coz he suck at free throw
I spoke too soon
because they've played like crap and the reserves played with passion and brains
I want Currys auto FTs back
Stuuuuuuupid Fitz

Jinx

Whew, Curry makes a second FT
Jim is raking Fitz over the coals for jinxing Steph
This will be a stab in the heart

if Keith Smart pulls out a Radman-like final play to tie the game, and then win in OT

curry splitting free throws

not focused

Sometimes you just miss it

I think Steph was very focused.

One of the problems with the Kings

is that they have no outside shooter. All they can do is drive

this game is a damn heart attack.....
More like a meat grinder
He's been very good? Oh fitz that's the kiss of death

Fitz didn’t learn his lesson

The curse passed us by this time.
isnt every warriors game?
WHEW, Nate hits both
that was a close one
Nate start over Monta = wins
so then curry gets to guard sgs all day

granted it isn’t a good thing to have monta on them either, but nate is about 5’8" he can’t guard anything but the smallest player on the court

Kings have no three point shooter

Even if Nate missed it wouldn’t matter

don't they have Jimmer?

Isn’t he a 3 pt shooter?

jimmers garbage

they also have keith smart, nullifying any potential advantage they may have

He's not as good as advertised

Good in college, but he hasn’t been shooting well

uhhhh....

tiny tim disagrees

If Rush stayed out on the three point line

He wouldn’t have made it

but he didnt

and hes already hit 2 others over defenders

Good day all, this game was interesting to say the least!
Brandon Rush should be starting.
Omg, Tyreke drive and kick to an Isiah Thomas 3

up only 1

what is going on? if they tie this
the tank will continue!
lol, miss the free throw, bring in the tank
Thomas hit 3 of 3

last 2 minutes

Kings no timeout left
hold on why dont we foul rather they let them shoot 3
*we let them shoot 3
way to make it exciting lol
lol id hate to be watching this game
Oooooof, scary 1st FT made
Rush clutch 2 FTs
whew, we ESCAPE with that win
Woo!

Barely beat the Kings at home!

Kings were hungry
beat the kings >:]
Kings suck

Smart suck

I rather have MJ as a coach

This is what great teams do

Win against bad teams without their “A” game

they also beat other great teams as well especially on the road

and have Point Differentials in their favor by a decent margin

cant believe Isaiah Thomas is their most consistent bench player so far
he is better than Jimmer Fardette
to be fair, he has been very inconsistent

he does bring more energy to the game than most of their players, though. kind of the way nate does

Tremendous game

Start Rush next game.

No I rather let him

spark the bench ala 6th man

21 Kings turnovers yikes
A lot of those were dumb turnovers too
i still DARE MJ to call this a playoff team
but good thing Smart is not our coach

anymore. Or else Monta will fall the same fate with Tyreke run out of gas at the end

I wonder...

do you think calling it a playoff team would help the team rise to the expectations he sets, or put more pressure on them and lead to an ever greater failure?

i thought about that

i think it depends on the type of players you have and also how well they’re already playing together.

I think for this team, since they’re not playing well together yet, the pressure of making the playoffs just adds to the friction and makes it all that much harder to figure each other out.

If this team already has their players figured out, plays, rotations, etc, then setting high expectations gives them something to strive for.

agreed.

I think we need a set rotation, and monta and steph going at the same time, before he begins to expect more from them.

yeah

and in order to have a set rotation, they need to figure out how to play together under MJ’s offense, whatever that is.

Btw, it’s not just MJ who’s expecting the playoffs. It was also Lacob.

lol

did anyone see that guy snatch rush’s towel?

Wish I hadn't watched that game. Neither team played good. The Kings just suck.
DUBstitues?!?!? boo

DUBSTEPPERS!!!!

The Warriors will be a playoff team in another 17 years
lesson here is..

Bottom is that our reserves are better than our starterss – play more defense, better size, better rebounding, less selfish – it shows up pretty much every game – the eye test, in the box scores, in the +/-, advanced statistics like win shares.

and when they are in for extended minutes and wearing out the other teams starting unit our starters are resting.. i like it
Ouch MJ talking saying Udoh shouldn't start and hasn't been outstanding.

And calling Dre his best defender.

smart move

andris needs enouragement

i think ekpe is responding well to being designated to the bench

What’s with the dubstep. It’s like non stop
Rave in there now. Music was playing while we were shooting free throws? Guber is a moron.

Uuuudddooohhhh

Im serious, I love him

And good win, if the kings can figure out how to turn it over less, they can be a scary team

Sac was just a few converted fast breaks away

from keeping the home team on its heels.

and they are missing a key player right now

plus, it looks like they’ll end up with yet another pretty good pick

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