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Warriors Game Day Links #17: Golden State Warriors 101 vs Portland Trail Blazers 93 - Warriors survive late game 5-second-inbounds turnover, avoid another collapse

Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry, center, is fouled by Portland Trail Blazers' Gerald Wallace, left, as Nicolas Batum (88) defends during the second half of an NBA basketball game Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2012, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

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28 days ago: Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry, center, is fouled by Portland Trail Blazers' Gerald Wallace, left, as Nicolas Batum (88) defends during the second half of an NBA basketball game Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2012, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

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Game thread: Game Thread #17: Portland Trail Blazers at Golden State Warriors - How will the Warriors respond? (810+ comments)

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Recap: Game 19 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 93, Golden State Warriors 101
Postgame: FINAL: Golden State Warriors 101, Portland Trail Blazers 93
Game thread: Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Warriors


Recaps

Associated Press: Curry has 32 points, Warriors top Blazers 101-93 | Photo Gallery
Sports Network: Curry lifts Warriors over Blazers
Matt Steinmetz: Curry's 32 helps W's back on track, past Blazers
Marcus Thompson II: Golden State Warriors get past Portland Trail Blazers
Rusty Simmons: Lee outplays Aldridge as Warriors top Blazers
Adam Lauridsen: Corrections (Warriors 101, Blazers 93)


Pregame News

- Previews of the game.
Matt Steinmetz: Blazers-Warriors: What to watch for
Marcus Thompson II: What to Watch For – Game 17

- A new TV deal with Comcast SportsNet boosts the overall value of the Warriors.
Rusty Simmons: NBA deal lifts value of Warriors franchise by 24%

Pregame Videos

CSN's story on the Warriors collapse against the Grizzlies.

Stephen Curry and Mark Jackson at shootaround.


More Mark Jackson and Stephen Curry at shootaround.


Postgame News

- No postgame news found.

Postgame Videos

Mark Jackson at the podium.

Stephen Curry in the locker room.

Dorell Wright in the locker room.

David Lee in the locker room.

CSN highlights, recap.


Highlights by gumbywithpokey.

Recap and highlights from nba.com's game page:
Trail Blazers vs. Warriors: First half
Backboard Pass
Lee Cleans the Glass
Warrior Hustle
Trail Blazers vs. Warriors

Postgame Quotes and Stuff from warriors.com recap

Photo Gallery

Audio
2:00 min: Tim Roye interviews Brandon Rush right after the game
1:02 min: Tim Roye's Game Recap - 1/25
4:52 min: Mark Jackson Postgame - 1/25
2:56 min: Stephen Curry Postgame - 1/25
4:16 min: David Lee Postgame - 1/25
1:06 min: Ekpe Udoh Postgame - 1/25
Mark Jackson
On Tonight's Game:
"I think that's just what the doctor ordered. No sense in us running away with a win we need to learn how to win close games, we need to learn how to close people out defensively and offensively. We made mistakes, but when you put forth the energy and effort good things happen. We did a great job closing out against a very good basketball team."

On Monta Ellis Defering More:
"Monta (Ellis) did a great job of getting in the seams understanding he didn't have it offensively, meaning scoring, and the great players figure out how to impact a game even though they are not able to do what they do best. For him to have 12 assists he did an outstanding job of finding shooters and finding players in rhythm and we took advantage of the hot hand. Stephen (Curry) got it going and Monta (Ellis) was more than willing to make plays."

On Closing Out The 4th Quarter:
"We defended, we rebounded, we took care of the basketball, 33 assists and 11 turnovers, and we put ourselves in position to win the ballgame. You have to take care of the basketball and not gift transition points by turning it over and allowing teams to climb back in with layups and open three's off of your turnovers- they hurt."

On Stephen Curry:
"Tonight he took what the defense gave him. He picked them apart in pick and roll situations, when they didn't play him he came off as a scorer, when they doubled him he put David (Lee) in position to make shots and trust that David (Lee) would make the right decisions so others would get involved. He ran the point guard position - while scoring 32 points. He got what he wanted and took control of this game and took over offensively and also trusted the system."
Stephen Curry
On The Second To Last Possession:
"That's what good winning teams do in the fourth quarter, they make the easy play, everyone is involved and moving like that the whole game you just don't do anything differently. We had a shaky start but we kept our composure and guys made plays down the stretch."

On Monta Ellis Setting Everyone Up:
"You could tell as of late that teams are keying in on him especially when he has the ball, waiting for the pick and roll. They were loading the defense to his side. He still did a great job of attacking and making plays on the weak side where we had shooters spacing. That's what leaders do."

On Being Able To Clost Out Games:
"It felt good. We weren't stressing about it at all, we just knew that we had an extreme lapse of play last game. It wasn't like it was something that was burdened us the last two days. We know when we have the opportunity that we are capable of closing out games."
Dorell Wright
On Whether It Was Opposite Day From Monday:
"We didn't play well last game. We just wanted to come out and protect the ball and go out there and play hard. Results show that we played hard for a whole 48 minutes and it wasn't 43 minutes. Everybody came in and contributed. The guys came off the bench and played major minutes, B-Rush (Brandon Rush), Ekpe (Udoh) and Nate (Robinson) all those guys really contributed. The starters came back in and closed the game out. It was a good win."

On Is It A Relief On Winning Today:
"No relief. We don't want to let up. We want to continue to get wins and put a little streak together. We have a good Oklahoma City team coming in here next; we just have to play those guys like we did tonight. A complete game, share the ball and come out with a win."

Interesting Tweets

(after the game)
MSteinmetzCSN: Blazers exec postgame: "We lost tonight because Udoh was able to defend Aldridge 1-on-1 and they didn't have to double."
EkpeUdoh: Great team win tonight. S/O to the fans for the crazy support we get!! Oh and have a nice evening!!!
KCsFinest4 (B. Rush): Need that fastrak ASAP. Been sitting at the toll thing for 10 mins

timkawakami: Rhetorical question: To all the David Lee fans who hound me every time he scores over 20... Do you watch defense? I mean... ever?
Dlee042: @timkawakami Thanks for the continued motivation buddy!
davisfields4: @Dlee042 good for you. Kawakami needs to back off.
Dlee042: @davisfields4 No @timkawakami doesn't need to back off... I respect his opinion like anyone else's. We just gotta win games, period!!

Notes

- According to Mark Jackson at the podium, Biedrins tweaked the ankle in the game, but was able to play otherwise.


What's next?

- Good thing we eeked out a win tonight, because the #1 team at 15-3, the OKC Thunder, roll into town on Friday night. If we can hang in to the end, I'll take it.

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Poll
I was so ready for another collapse late in the game. But we hung on, and you get to pick your guy.
Stephen Curry
530 votes
Monta Ellis
68 votes
Dorell Wright
0 votes
David Lee
27 votes
Andris Biedrins
3 votes
Brandon Rush
14 votes
Ekpe Udoh
55 votes
Nate Robinson
7 votes
Klay Thompson
5 votes
Jeremy Tyler
36 votes
Dominic McGuire
10 votes
Whew, a win.
62 votes

817 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  184 comments

Comments

ONE GAME WINNING STREAK
lol!! Let's add on it! Glad they ran out of gas at the end (3rd game in 3 nights). Our stats were disturbing; other than shooting.
Two things I liked about JTyler's limited minutes...

1. I saw him actually box out his man…. something I watch Udoh and Lee actively NOT do.

2. A player drove into the lane and Tyler did not jump out of the gym on the pump fake…something that rookie bigs usually always do.

agree, tyler actually did some of the things kwame did like be a presence on defensive boards. watching him on defensive boards somehow felt comforting.

udoh did a much much better job tonight rebounding tonight, but still this is not something we should be praising him about, this should be expect of him every night. dlee still has a really hard time on defensive glass, but i guess thats cause he is matched up against a long center. we still need that real center., i hope jeremy surpasses biedrins by the end of this season.

2. A player drove into the lane and Tyler did not jump out of the gym on the pump fake…something that rookie bigs usually always do.

What do you mean? DW still does that all the time!

ha...

….yes…. I was just amazed to see him not go for the fake… even though the player ended up scoring anyway.

Pretty sure I saw DW

Pump fake, drive, pump fake again (maybe 3-5 quick ones) and then pass it out

I mean when DW plays D

He jumps on all the pumpfakes that the other guy did.

well, at least he's consistant

he lives in a world where the pump fake is THE most effective basketball move

Yep, I would have liked to see more minutes for him....
Strange game. Cris Paul and Monta had similar nights. Each had a dozen assists. Each had 4 points. They both shot about the same!

Jackson had some tricks up his sleeve. Monta was the cryptic PG, and Curry the defacto SG. Udoh actually pulled in some rebounds. Inside-outside game worked. Tyler Time. Disturbing stats, though. Were it not for our excellent 2 and 3pt shooting (except for 40% from FT line), everything else was a losing proposition; in every category. Not good! I’ll take the badly-needed win, but we really sucked in every category except our shooting!

well said, agree with you on all counts.
ball movement

high assist to shot ratio (less stagnation watching Ellis pound the ball ?) ; probably a one game anomaly, with Por lacking the legs in its third game in three nights to cover the floor and deny passing lanes. fools gold, but boosting the confidence for Udoh and Tyler, Rush getting more time than Wright, are not bad things.

Rush is a lot like Reggie, and, both, are better than Wright!
I’ll take the badly-needed win, but we really sucked in every category except our shooting!

I’d prefer the draft pick and better players . Portland has caused us lots of grief over the last few years, letting us beat them to spoil our draft position. Maybe it’s cause their owner is a math whiz?

lol..We can add, too: Warriors is team that is loaded with talent up front...1+1=4....See, we are math geniuses
We have a much better chance to win when Monta plays like this...

I sitting with friends at the O making bets on “when” Monta would decide to “take over the game”(and thus kill our lead) and by gosh he never did and we all happy lost our bets….he did have one promising “Monta iso” going late in the game at the top of the key and WoW—→ he passed it off to Lee for a score….“good Monta” night all around….minimal chucking up as well….saw Curry rub his shoulder as they walked off in sympathy for his “scoring struggles” (which resulted in a win due to less ball domination by Monta)

You have to be fair...Curry was back and up to speed...Lee got help inside....Monta, for the first time in a while did not have to play EG: Everything Guard!
Sorry to differ dino but Curry was running the Warriors last night...
Monta was the cryptic PG, and Curry the defacto SG

Monta was assisting rather than dominating/hogging the ball but Curry bring the ball down and setting it up.

You are correct. After I mae the comment, even Major J was asked if that was intentional! Curry got his first assist, 3 seconds before the end of the half!
Why did I have to miss a great performance by Curry?
A great shooting performance....
What was wrong with the....

… 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 stls, and 1 turnover?

0 assists till 3 secs before the half? a PG? Good thing others picked up the slack, and were seting up his shot, and Lees, and everyone else!

He was an effective SG the first half!

I suppose if you want to simplify the PG to the point....

…. where it is only measured in assists, you are right. Beyond that oversimplification, not so much.

Good thing basketball is played in two halves.....
Just pointing out that Steph is at his best when he is shooting. He is not a PG. I am a Steph supporter, but Monta was distributing the ball much better this game. Yet, another, SG!
most good shooters are at their best when they are shooting
They are both combo guards

Curry is more apt to handle the point because he simply has a better dribble than Monta. However, Monta is more dangerous at penetrating the paint so he can get those kicks and dishes out. Both of them are much better when their shots are going down.

Last game Steph and DLee actually got some plays together going effectively, which is encouraging.

PLEASE someone get a gif of curry dancing on the bench. THANKS.
This. I want this too.
Who's Next

Durantula

ugh...

…I hope Dom is ready to play some minutes.

yup

Im sure it is gonna be ugly. Just wish we got the win

I’ll be at the game. It’ll be my first!

hope you are the

good luck charm of the Warriors

Added

Mark Jackson at the podium. CSN highlights, recap. Steinmetz, Udoh tweet. warriors.com audio.

Backboard pass!
Dude, how sweet was that?!?

Loved udoh smiling after that too.
I think Udoh is my new favorite warriors

Yep, he finally got 5 rebounds....
what?? Don't you mean "7"?

plus 2 steals and 2 blocks

and anyways, you don’t have to be good at everything to succeed. While I’d love to see him get more boards, Udoh seems to make up for his deficiencies just fine!

You are right, Duby. I simply pointed out that we really need help on the boards, and he came through, finally.

You cannot establish an inside presence either on offense or defense, when the combined number of rebounds of Udoh-Biedrins is 3 boards (as was the previous game). Heck, Duby, if you played forward (I know you were a PG), for 20 minutes in the NBA, you woul get more than 1, or, two rebounds (even on defensive boards, alone)!

I

I actually played mostly Center in HS.

And I’ll tell you man, I’ve played regularly with some guys who are pretty good (pro in Chile, a couple of AAU guys) and I am absolutely positive that I would have zero rebounds in an NBA game.

Not even 1? you under-estimate the luck of the bounce! ;-)

Even 1 rebound would give you 100% of Biedrins’ contribution for the previous game, and 50% of Udoh"s….

hahahaha

but seriously, go easy on Biedrens, he is a good rebounder (single-game samples not withstanding)

I am absolutely positive that I would have zero rebounds in an NBA game.

haha, you’d probably be running so fast to stay out of their way that you might luck into one stray ball somewhere.

I was at the game and didn’t know that was intentional…or maybe it wasn’t. I honestly thought it was a horrible pass that got lucky it got to Tyler lol.

I must have misread Brandon Rush’s tweet. I thought for sure it said “Need hip hop clubs for young black male athletes ASAP”

They should build one....

..right at the toll plaza.

Should be a few more around here than in Indiana ha!
Doubt it. Granger HATES San Francisco

probably for that reason haha

He probably misses being on a good,young upcoming team rather than San Francisco.

How could anyone hate San Francisco compared to Indy….I am from Indiana by the way….

i saw a hint of nellie ball today

I think Mark Jackson has finally figured out this team is not suited to the slow, boring and rather crappy half court offense that he’s used in past games

Seems like they slowed it down...

…when Curry was out. They ran all over Chicago. Curry is a much better PG in transition than he is in the half court… Monta seems to be the opposite. Maybe MJ noticed this, or maybe it’s just the natural flow when Curry is back running the point.

I disagree

Monta is a better point guard in the open floor, too (or at least in semi-transition situations). It’s in the half-court sets that he tends to isolate a lot (although to his credit he’s been much more controlled in this regard recently).

For 2 guys that are not PGs, we take what we get when they are in that role!
I disagree right back...ha ha

Monta doesn’t have the handles or the court vision to be a great transition PG. All of the assists that people are raving about are coming off of drive and dish plays from a Monta iso (when he doesn’t settle for a bad jumper). He puts pressure on the defense with his drives, which is why (when making good decisions) I think he can be effective in more of a PG role in the halfcourt. He needs Curry to set the pace and keep the offense running in transition, however… the games with Steph gone made that evident.

Monta is WAY better running the break

Steph made a badly timed pass and missed a layup on two fast break opportunities last night, not Monta.

Steph made a badly timed pass and missed a layup on two fast break opportunities last night, not Monta.

Well that settles it, then.

"Transition"

…doesn’t necessarily mean “fast break”…

Monta is WAY better running the break

if WAY better means faster then yeah he is.

not just faster

but more in control of himself at top speed as well

Monta is horrible in a slow half court set--->turnovers galore!...much better in a running game.
He's better running the wing in the running game...

…. my point is that in the half court, GOOD Monta can be a great weapon as we’ve seen all year with his penetration and dish play. He can be more valuable than Curry in the half court as PG when he plays that way…and it gives Steph better looks. Steph is way beyond him at controlling the tempo and making the offense flow, however, which is why I’ve actually liked how MJ has used them this season for the most part.

Well OK ...."good" Monta is always another story...could agree with the good Monta half court theory.....:-)
Added

Stephen Curry in the locker room.

Added

Another Lee tweet. David Lee in the locker room.

I really wish Jenkins would get some time....

…I like Nate’s energy… but sometimes I just want someone solid and controlled running the point…especially when we’re holding a lead. Also, I’m assuming Jenkins could be a long term contributor, while Nate may not even be here next year… would love to see CJ develop more.

…I like Nate’s energy… but sometimes I just want someone solid and controlled running the point

These two statements seem ironic to me.

How so?

Sometimes you want a spark plug off the bench, but sometimes it helps to have a more controlled player running the show. When we have a lead, the last thing I want to see is Nate forcing bad shots and making risky plays.

I may have read it wrong then

Thought you were saying that Nate is the solid and controlled one running the point. Of which he does none of those well.

Yeah... to me

Jenkins seems to have a lot of poise. I think he’ll get more aggressive as he gets more experience, but he was VERY efficient in college and has show that quality so far in the pros.

I like what Nate brings, but in some situations I think Jenkins is the better choice.

it kinda feels like nates style of play is not sustainable for a long period of time
Either way, I would agree with Ablaze, that the rookie ought to be getting some mofe time and experience in what will probably be a lost season...

I was arguing something similar for Reggie last year….

Agree on more time for Jenkins...it was nice that Curry wasnt gassed out at the end of the game.
Added

warriors.com quotes. Rusty, Lauridsen recap.

Added

Dorell Wright in the locker room.

Two things left: nba.com recap, and gumby highlights.

Even though this was the 3rd game in as many days for the Blazers, it should be pretty clear that this team NEEDS a 2 guard that can play off the ball and pass well. (Jumping on the Igouldala bandwagon even if it’ll never happen lol).

Well Iggy isn't really an off ball player

And tonight there was nothing wrong with the back court, Monta adjusted to how his game was going and ended up having a good night. I’d even say his defense was decent

I still like Monta-Curry

However, when Beans is the only real Center you have to back them up, there will be issues. Which is why I liked how Kwame fit with our team.

Me too

For what it’s worth, I’m really glad this backcourt is getting some more time to see if they can work together.

Pretty sure that it’s not gonna work long-term, but they are fun to watch when it’s going right

Duby, why o you think that it's not gonna work long-tem?
in one word: defense

more words:
although they are an awesome tandem on offense, they are just not good enough on that end to make up for how bad they are on the other end. If we had a huge defensive stalwart behind them all the time, maaaaybe it could work.

another word: logistics,
in order to get significantly better, I believe that we are going to need to make a trade that brings us back either more talent, or a high lottery draft pick. Don’t see how that happens without sacrificing either Steph or Monta

Well Klay has some potential in that regard.
Even though this was the 3rd game in as many days for the Blazers, it should be pretty clear that this team NEEDS a 2 guard that can play off the ball and pass well
agree

I am finally starting to see flashes of the Klay that belongs in the NBA.

Did you hear the story during the broadcast?
Jim was talking about MFJ coaching Klay and said that MFJ told Klay he “never saw Reggie Miller hang his head after a miss” and that MFJ would never pull him out of the game for missing a shot.

this is the kinda stuff that makes me think for all his stupid catch phrases, MFJ may in fact turn out to be a decent head coach

MFJ told Klay he "never saw Reggie Miller hang his head after a miss" and that MFJ would never pull him out of the game for missing a shot.

then proceeded to pull him for missing a shot :>)

hahaha

MFJ: “Gotcha, kid! Now, quit screwing up, or it’s the d-league for ya!”

Great win, guys!

How was the game?

I'm curious

do you have a particular affinity for the Warriors? Because you’re always in the game threads/post game threads congratulating us on our wins, and I’m not sure why. I don’t mind it, I’m just curious. Are you from the Bay Area or live here or something?

Yes.

I live in the Bay Area. (that’s why I’m also a Giants, Sharks, and Raiders fan.) Although Lakers are my favorite NBA team, I follow the Warriors since they live in the Bay Area.

I decided to follow the Warriors to see how they do.

You two should be good pals.
because that's what makes up friendships...lol

but maybe you’re just not capable of being “good pals” with someone who likes a different team than you? I really don’t know, but your statement is pretty illogical.

There's a psychological reason people root for the Lakers when they're from the bay area.

It’s a common trait. I tend to see these people congregate together.

Wow, all knowing and a psychologist to boot....impressive.

So were do all these horrible Lakers fans congregate in the bay area oh omnipotent one. We must root them out. ;-p

I was just trying to lighten the mood with Brownie but that obviously didn’t work.

Actually joking around myself as well..;-)

I believe the Blazers were on the third game f a back to back to back. Beggars can’t be choosers.

Wow, you're right

It WAS their third game in their back-to-back-to-back.

and we barely squeaked out a win at home.
And tonight there was nothing wrong with the back court, Monta adjusted to how his game was going and ended up having a good night. I’d even say his defense was decent

I agree with that dubz. Curry and Monta played well tongiht. It’s just been a while since I’ve seen Monta play a “smart” game and not force the issue.

I would like to see more of the Lee-Udoh tandem down low

It was really effective tonight, and I bet it’ll keep working as long as teams don’t have centers over 7foot lol

Yup... entirely situational...

… against teams without a beast center, they can do damage.

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I'm probably one of few

but I enjoy Mark Jackson’s post-game interviews. I think he hits most things just right, even if his wording is often cliche. I like his metaphors, I like his take on things happening on the court, I like the reasoning he gives for his decisions. I think he’s good at cutting through bull crap and most importantly, he’s a strong leader. He keeps his calm regardless of the outcome. I think, obviously, he’s learning to be a good in-game coach on the job, but for the most part, I believe he understands what his role is and how to get what he wants out of his players.

Mark Jackson should be good at post game interviews. I think he says all the right things and is trying to boost morale because otherwise the players, fans, everyone would just not even show up so to say. The problem is he is inexperienced as a coach and it will take time before he finds his own style of coaching. This is part of why the Warriors needed a veteran coach, someone who already knows what it takes. With a young team like the Warriors and for so long them used to just playing Nellie ball, it will take time for anything to shift or change. I like Mark Jackson, I like what he has to say…I remember during the lockout some event the Warriors had and I went to, everything said that night totally made me believe what they were saying….but just because someone says something, doesn’t mean they know how to get it done.

Ok guys, Major J is a gifted, post-game interviewee...Now, please get me a brownie, too...

I really like how he dropped a lot of numbers. Though he did do the “drop the instincts” line, he did mention a lot of things like Udoh having a plus 18 plus/minus and Monta leading the league in assists for Shooting guards. I thought that was kinda cool because I don’t remember a lot of Smart or Nellie interviews where he was dropping numbers like that.

I think there's something to being able to recognize that

yet not rely on it as a way to coach. “I’m not a plus/minus guy”

Added

nba.com highlights, recap.

And that's all for tonight.
Thanks (from the morning after)

Appreciate you having this all set up and waiting for me and my morning coffee!!

+2 coffee cups...
David Lee

I wish he would show his competitive fire more. Obviously, it’s showing up in the tweets tonight, and it seems to show up every time he’s called for a foul…but I want to see it on the court at players, rather than the refs. When he gets angry he plays better. He plays stronger. He dunks the ball, he holds his position in the post. He makes effective attempts to change shots around the basket. He’s obviously a skilled dude, and it’s not like he’s UNathletic, and I think if he played more consistency with a fire lit inside of him, we’d see better results.

He seems to get fired up when someone scores on him

Many times, after someone scores on him, he tries to post the guy up on the other end immediately.

Agreed

He definitely shows a competitive fire. He may not bark in people’s faces a la Kevin Garnett, but under certain circumstances he will show a determination to make a big play and work even harder than usual. He shows his competitive fire through actions rather than words, and that in itself is very commendable.

What I'm saying is I want to see it more

Because I think he plays better in general when he’s emotional/angry/whatever you want to call it. There’s guys in the league that are like that every other play, and it works for them very well. I think it’d help him become even more of a vocal leader, which would be another good thing.

He seems to get fired up when someone scores on him

You mean every time someone posts him up? LOL.

Lee plays he best when he has help establishing an inside presence, and the outside threat is also established.

We have our backcourt back, and Curry and Monta were looking for him. Udoh and even, Tyler, gave him help on the boards and defense, and established some scoring threat capability. Our inside-outside-inside game got established. “Suddenly”, defenses could not stop us be collapsing on Lee. It is realy not rocket science why Lee looked better, and was more effective.

I love this game
Another wonderful game by Andris, I see

When will we just dump him?

we won't

this is not the kind of game that we would need Andris for, though

to be fair, Ekpe clearly cannot handle “true” centers, so when we go up against those teams Andris is useful just as a body.

I would platoon these two guys. Start Ekpe at center against teams he can handle and start Andris against the other teams. I don’t know why Jackson doesn’t do that.

What it shows is we need a guy in the front court who we can throw the ball into. Udoh can do it poorly (bad handles). Lee and Dorell are better off transition.

AB can’t do it. Kwame could do it part-time.

We have Tyler and Barron for just a body....
it's just pathetic.

We can’t play him for extended minutes because he is a total and complete liability on the offensive end. He’s more of an offensive liability than McGuire. The guy is scared to go inside, bad at rebounding, awful at shooting, has no post moves whatsoever…he’s ok on D but not great. I can’t figure out one good thing to say about his game. He has taken massive steps back and I can’t help but think he was discouraged by his health problems and happy to sit on his piles of cash.

A couple notes

1) David Lee has a good sense of humor

2) Monta may….. finally get it? Could it be true?

3) Start Brandon. He’s straight up earned it. A guy that shoots 55% + on threes should never be 7th on a teams depth chart. and considering dorrell is tanking at our ’three point specialist", its time to begin a Rush Week at the Warriors Frat

4) Mark Jackson understands guards, but he continually proves that he doesn’t understand much about coaching center. I honestly think we’ll get the maximum 5 output once we find a center that the entire organization feels like can stay in the game at least 28 minutes. (This is going to be gross to even ask, but it looks like Brooke Lopez will hit FA. Obviously very little defense, but I can’t see why he wouldn’t want to come back to the bay area. And he could be a viable center option at this point. Would a Lopez/Re-signed Kwame platoon work?)

No.

Lopez just isn’t that good and plays no defense, which is the MAIN thing we need a big body for, to clog up the middle on d.

to me lopez is just a 7’ david lee

Except that Lee’s at least a solid rebounder, where Lopez is possibly the worst rebounding C in the league.

Basically agreed though … a Lee/Lopez big man tandem would be somewhere between Charmin and Pillsbury on the softness scale.

re: somewhere between Charmin and Pillsbury on the softness scale.

aka “the Bargnani band”

Except that Lee’s at least a solid rebounder, where Lopez is possibly the worst rebounding C in the league.

Bargnani?

Is Bargs even a true center, though? I guess I consider him a high post 4 in the Channing Frye / Ryan Anderson mode. I’m not a big Bargs fan, but I do think that if you’re a big who can hit 40% from 3, you’re off the hook for some of your rebounding duties. Lopez is a traditional post C who somehow rebounds like Dorell Wright.

Bargs is certainly not a ‘true center’ but his lack of a perimeter game other than long range shooting makes it difficult to have him in the lineup as anything other than a 4/5. He doesn’t pass well, doesn’t advance the ball well and doesn’t appear to stay with people on the perimeter well. I’d be curious to see what synergy says about him vis a vis his defense. Maybe it picks up on some “little things” that he’s actually good at, but I certainly don’t see it watching him and it doesn’t seem to show up in the numbers.

Rush is out playing Dorell by far...

but Dorell did actually try to take to the basket once last night and Lee was there to clean up….

Disagreed

with point 3.

While Rush has played well enough to earn the starting position (especially considering Dorell’s struggles from the first few weeks), it’s really beneficial to have a huge spark like that coming off the bench. Our second unit lineup of Nate, Klay, Rush, Udoh, and filler has proved extremely potent. I wouldn’t break it up, personally. And in certain late game situations, Mark Jackson may indeed have Rush out there with the rest of the starters. Who starts is less important than who finishes, and having Rush coming off the bench towards the end of the first keeps us humming along when starters start taking their breathers.

Udoh neutralized LMA without much help defense

thats my vote

It was a very significant contribution.....

For sure, though probably not quite as significant as Steph’s 32 points (12-19 fg), 6 boards, 7 assists, 4 steals, zero personal fouls, one turnover. When you have a night like that and still can’t get 33% of GSoM to vote for you, you know you’re dealing with a tough crowd!

lol....Agree....I think Lee probably feels the same way....
zero personal fouls, one turnover

Steph got my vote. I did not realized that he never foul the whole game…but still got 4 steals. I never seen Steph play smart basketball like last night. Usually he will be in foul trouble or got a bunch of turnover

you must have some serious pull, Sleepy (or you've been stuffing the ballot box)

Steph is up to 67%

It was a tough call

Steph had a great game, But I went with Ekpe just for the fact that his play made it hard for MJ to put in his 4 gaurd+ Lee( or the big version with Dom at the 4} line up that he seems to like to close out the games with.
they only had 57 seconds which even for that lineup wasnt long enough to lose it for us

Cripes I was rec'd you sleepy and hit the flag by mistake...

Curry was awsome last night..

I try to rec him up too

but I think I click flag damn

There

I flaged him for real

just ’cus :)

But, but, but...

That goes on his permanent record!

;)

Another usuless win

But at least we got to see some playing up to potential even though the Blazers were on a 3 day burn.

Wow dorell with 0 votes. At least he ran the floor finally and got some fast break dunks.

those dunks really energized the crowd.

sarcastic? they were not amazing dunks but glad to see him finish strong.

no, I wasn't sarcastic, I really meant it

I was at the game and those dunks had us jumping out of our seats!

I enjoyed the fastbreak dunks from Dorell because I know he’ll make it. I’m scared something terribly going wrong everytime Curry gets a fastbreak layup.

I’m scared something terribly going wrong everytime Curry gets a fastbreak layup.

From the looks of it, looks like Steph is too…

Haha

Yeah, Steph still doesn’t completely have his legs. He’s never been a great leaper, but he seems to be having a little trouble with his conditioning since this last injury.

dont trade steph

havnt had a warrior with a per over 20 in awhile

LMFAO!!

anyone else catch the tweet exchange between Lee and TK?
Lee is the man!

timkawakami: Rhetorical question: To all the David Lee fans who hound me every time he scores over 20… Do you watch defense? I mean… ever?
Dlee042: @timkawakami Thanks for the continued motivation buddy!
davisfields4: @Dlee042 good for you. Kawakami needs to back off.
Dlee042: @davisfields4 No @timkawakami doesn’t need to back off… I respect his opinion like anyone else’s. We just gotta win games, period!!
it's in the main post :)
D Lee is a good player...

just not 80 million good…then it’s even worst when you look at the new K-Love contract

Dude

It is $80mil over 5 years, and he is only getting $12mil this year. Tell me who can play as good as DLee under $12mil. I know there are some but there are more players got paid more than $12mil and either play the same or worst than DLee.

It is $80mil over 5 years,

Not quite as bad as that: $80M over six years. $13.3M is the annual figure you should be using. The fact that it’s “only” $12M this year is actually a negative from our perspective, since the backloading makes the contract more difficult to move.

It is pretty amazing that you thought Lee was due $68M over the next four years ($17M annually!) and still thought it was a good contract.

As far as whether it’s a good deal under its actual terms … yeah, you and others have made this same argument many times before. It’s a reasonable enough case, but if you’re going to make it, you should at least acknowledge two basic points:

1. The fact that there are players in the league with worse contracts than Lee’s does not make Lee’s contract good.
2. Defense is half the game.

Personally, I was on the fence about the contract when they inked it, but have come around to disliking it rather strongly. I can’t remember now which poster first voiced it this way…

No crappy team has any business signing anyone but a Top 20-ish NBA player to a pricy long-term deal.

I love this truism. SImple, consistent, repeatable. If the Warriors had lived by it, they wouldn’t have signed Jamison, Murphy, Dunleavy, Foyle, Richardson, Monta, Biedrins, Jackson, Maggette, et al. And they almost certainly wouldn’t have put themselves in their current 18-year (and counting) treadmill of total mediocrity.

I don’t see how the truism doesn’t apply to David Lee, unless you somehow consider him a Top 20-ish player.

I blame bud selig

People don’t understand negative constraints a bad contract can have when you DON’T have a core capable of competing

Well, he got the deal, so, just get over it!
What do y'all think of Hibbert?

RFA come summer

we won't have enough cap space to overpay him to the point that indy wouldnt match
Knicks can get Chandler with no cap space. If we really want, we can make it work.

….unless our FO people are bunch of no-no….

Knicks had to give up Chauncey Billups to get Chandler.

We already used our amnesty clause.

OT

Did the site’s color scheme just go fro orange to blue and grey? I like it better since we don’t actually wear orange, I’d still prefer some gold though. Not a ton but some

yeah it did, looks like laker colors to me. Old one was better but its alright

Did the site’s color scheme just go fro orange to blue and grey?

with a touch of snow blindness.

I like it this way

Yeah, the GSoM team was unanimously opposed to the orange-y peach palette they set up. It just didn’t say Warriors at all.

I definitely agree that it could use a splash of gold — I told the SBN tech crew as much — but apparently a lot of the items are tied together by the CMS, so can’t be changed without changing the whole color scheme. We’ll see what we can do! I’m sure you’ll see continued tweaking here and there over the next few days.

Two of our favorite new tweaks are the new favicon (tiny logo next to the URL in your browser) and new horizontal “GSoM” logo that appears under “Blog Memberships” in your profile page. Whaddaya think?

love that horizontal logo!!

In GSoM we trust

Ooooooh, check it with the shiny gold nav bar! I think it’s hella tight now — just the right balance of blue gold and grey, imho. Fresher and brighter than what we used to have without departing from the classic GSW palette.

Thoughts?

Yeah the gold bar is a huge plus

The black didn’t fit at all

The right warm tone of gold though not that crappy bright yellow on the floor at Oracle.

This game shows Curry should handle half-court plays and Monta handles fast-break plays. I bet im not the only one who cringes everytime Curry goes in for a lay-up not knowing if he’ll start limping on one foot

I think this game shows when we share the ball and don't go 1 v 1

We are a dangerous offensive team

OK, gotsa...Let's see how it would work: What do we have fast break? Hold the play folks, get the ball to Monta.....OK, fast break is back on now...

:-)

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