Got the lockout blues? I find that a soothing dose of new stats can help alleviate some of the symptoms. I've created a new stat for assigning value to inside scoring, so I wanted to share it with you guys, and see what you think. There are actually two versions of the stat, one that adjusts for position, and one that doesn't. Both could be useful or interesting depending on the context.

Here's what I came up with after a little bit of thought. I'm going to illustrate the calculation with a couple of examples. First up is Tony Parker. Tony Parker averaged 7.3 shot attempts (per 40 minutes) at the rim in 2011 according to Hoopdata. His FG% at the rim was 65.4%. The average number of shot attempts at the rim for point guards is 4.03. The average FG% at the rim for point guards is 60%. So, not only did Parker take more shot attempts than the average point guard, he shot them at a considerably better percentage. I propose that his "adjusted marginal scoring" adjusted for position and shot location (PSAMS) is as follows:
PSAMS = 2*(7.30-4.03)*(0.654-0.50)+2*4.03*(0.654-0.60) = 1.18
Let me explain this formula in steps. The first term on the right side accounts for the additional number of shots that Parker took compared to the average point guard at the rim and the marginal increase in efficiency that those shots had over the average efficiency of what those shots would have had if they were taken by an average player taking an average shot (i.e. league average efficiency). In other words, the assumption is that if Parker didn't take those 3.3 "extra" shots, an average player shooting with average efficiency would have. Of course, that isn't always or even mostly the case, but it's a common reference point that enables us to compare all players fairly. Ok, still with me? The second part of the equation represents the marginal value of the shots that Parker was "supposed" to take relative to other point guards. In the case of Parker, both terms are positive, and his total of 1.18 ranks him very high (#6) on the list of 152 players that I looked at (who qualified by playing 40+ games of 25+ minutes per game).
The second example is Steve Nash. Nash only attempted 2 shots at the rim per 40 minutes. His FG% was 72.8%, which is very high. The calculation for Nash goes as follows:
PSAMS = 2*(2-4.03)*(0.60-0.50)+2*2.0*(0.728-0.60) = 0.27
In Nash's case, the first term is actually negative, because Nash took fewer shots at the rim than the average PG, and those shots are normally more efficient than an average shot, thus costing his team a little bit (compared to average!). Now, the good news is that Nash's marginal value on the two shots he did take was positive, because his efficiency on those shots was above what an average point guard would do. In the end, Nash ranked #73 on the list. The values 4.03 and 0.60, which represent the shot attempts and FG% for PG at the rim, are replaced by their respective values at each of the other positions. In this post, I am just looking at shots at the rim (< 3ft from the basket according to Hoopdata). Here are the top 20 overall:
Thaddeus Young comes out on top, which is not surprising, given his 7.9 attempts per 40 at 73.4% efficiency. Note that Monta Ellis comes in at #11 overall and #2 among shooting guards.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | POS | PSAMS |
| 1 | 1 | Thaddeus Young | PHI | 3 | 2.92 |
| 2 | 2 | LeBron James | MIA | 3 | 1.92 |
| 3 | 1 | Dwight Howard | ORL | 5 | 1.74 |
| 4 | 1 | Dwyane Wade | MIA | 2 | 1.73 |
| 5 | 3 | Shawn Marion | DAL | 3 | 1.60 |
| 6 | 1 | Tony Parker | SAS | 1 | 1.44 |
| 7 | 4 | Wilson Chandler | NYK | 3 | 1.34 |
| 8 | 2 | Nene Hilario | DEN | 5 | 1.33 |
| 9 | 5 | Kevin Durant | OKC | 3 | 1.24 |
| 10 | 6 | Tayshaun Prince | DET | 3 | 1.15 |
| 11 | 2 | Monta Ellis | GSW | 2 | 1.15 |
| 12 | 7 | Jeff Green | OKC | 3 | 1.08 |
| 13 | 8 | Paul Pierce | BOS | 3 | 1.06 |
| 14 | 1 | Blake Griffin | LAC | 4 | 1.04 |
| 15 | 3 | Marcin Gortat | PHO | 5 | 0.85 |
| 16 | 2 | Carlos Boozer | CHI | 4 | 0.83 |
| 17 | 2 | Russell Westbrook | OKC | 1 | 0.82 |
| 18 | 3 | Eric Gordon | LAC | 2 | 0.77 |
| 19 | 4 | Kevin Martin | HOU | 2 | 0.76 |
| 20 | 5 | Landry Fields | NYK | 2 | 0.73 |
Here are the bottom 20 on the list:
No Warriors here. Phew.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | POS | PSAMS |
| 152 | 34 | Marcus Camby | POR | 4 | -1.56 |
| 151 | 19 | Andrea Bargnani | TOR | 5 | -1.42 |
| 150 | 33 | Channing Frye | PHO | 4 | -1.35 |
| 149 | 33 | Daniel Gibson | CLE | 1 | -1.28 |
| 148 | 32 | Ersan Ilyasova | MIL | 4 | -1.08 |
| 147 | 32 | Carlos Delfino | MIL | 3 | -0.90 |
| 146 | 34 | Anthony Morrow | NJN | 2 | -0.87 |
| 145 | 33 | Sasha Vujacic | NJN | 2 | -0.85 |
| 144 | 32 | Derek Fisher | LAL | 1 | -0.82 |
| 143 | 18 | Chuck Hayes | HOU | 5 | -0.80 |
| 142 | 31 | Luke Ridnour | MIN | 1 | -0.75 |
| 141 | 32 | Anthony Parker | CLE | 2 | -0.69 |
| 140 | 17 | Roy Hibbert | IND | 5 | -0.68 |
| 139 | 30 | Brandon Jennings | MIL | 1 | -0.67 |
| 138 | 16 | Kwame Brown | CHA | 5 | -0.65 |
| 137 | 29 | Jason Kidd | DAL | 1 | -0.65 |
| 136 | 31 | Elton Brand | PHI | 4 | -0.64 |
| 135 | 15 | Brook Lopez | NJN | 5 | -0.63 |
| 134 | 30 | Antawn Jamison | CLE | 4 | -0.60 |
| 133 | 31 | John Salmons | MIL | 2 | -0.60 |
Here is the full list of players by position, with their overall rank and positional rank:
Curry ranks 19th among PG and #90 overall.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | PSAMS |
| 6 | 1 | Tony Parker | SAS | 1.44 |
| 17 | 2 | Russell Westbrook | OKC | 0.82 |
| 22 | 3 | Ty Lawson | DEN | 0.73 |
| 32 | 4 | Derrick Rose | CHI | 0.55 |
| 38 | 5 | Andre Miller | POR | 0.51 |
| 39 | 6 | Tyreke Evans | SAC | 0.51 |
| 44 | 7 | Rajon Rondo | BOS | 0.43 |
| 46 | 8 | Beno Udrih | SAC | 0.42 |
| 55 | 9 | John Wall | WAS | 0.30 |
| 56 | 10 | Deron Williams | UTH | 0.30 |
| 58 | 11 | Darren Collison | IND | 0.27 |
| 59 | 12 | Ramon Sessions | CLE | 0.27 |
| 73 | 13 | Steve Nash | PHO | 0.11 |
| 76 | 14 | Kyle Lowry | HOU | 0.08 |
| 77 | 15 | Jrue Holiday | PHI | 0.07 |
| 79 | 16 | Mike Conley | MEM | 0.06 |
| 81 | 17 | Baron Davis | LAC | 0.01 |
| 84 | 18 | Rodney Stuckey | DET | -0.04 |
| 90 | 19 | Stephen Curry | GSW | -0.12 |
| 93 | 20 | Jameer Nelson | ORL | -0.16 |
| 96 | 21 | George Hill | SAS | -0.18 |
| 99 | 22 | Raymond Felton | NYK | -0.24 |
| 103 | 23 | Chris Paul | NOR | -0.27 |
| 110 | 24 | Jose Calderon | TOR | -0.32 |
| 115 | 25 | Chauncey Billups | DEN | -0.39 |
| 119 | 26 | Devin Harris | NJN | -0.44 |
| 121 | 27 | D.J. Augustin | CHA | -0.46 |
| 130 | 28 | Mike Bibby | ATL | -0.56 |
| 137 | 29 | Jason Kidd | DAL | -0.65 |
| 139 | 30 | Brandon Jennings | MIL | -0.67 |
| 142 | 31 | Luke Ridnour | MIN | -0.75 |
| 144 | 32 | Derek Fisher | LAL | -0.82 |
| 149 | 33 | Daniel Gibson | CLE | -1.28 |
Monta getting some love at #2 among SG.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | PSAMS |
| 4 | 1 | Dwyane Wade | MIA | 1.73 |
| 11 | 2 | Monta Ellis | GSW | 1.15 |
| 18 | 3 | Eric Gordon | LAC | 0.77 |
| 19 | 4 | Kevin Martin | HOU | 0.76 |
| 20 | 5 | Landry Fields | NYK | 0.73 |
| 24 | 6 | Andre Iguodala | PHI | 0.71 |
| 43 | 7 | Kobe Bryant | LAL | 0.43 |
| 50 | 8 | Wesley Matthews | POR | 0.37 |
| 53 | 9 | Manu Ginobili | SAS | 0.31 |
| 54 | 10 | Joe Johnson | ATL | 0.30 |
| 66 | 11 | Vince Carter | PHO | 0.22 |
| 67 | 12 | DeMar DeRozan | TOR | 0.20 |
| 72 | 13 | Jason Richardson | ORL | 0.11 |
| 74 | 14 | Arron Afflalo | DEN | 0.10 |
| 75 | 15 | James Harden | OKC | 0.09 |
| 82 | 16 | Thabo Sefolosha | OKC | -0.00 |
| 83 | 17 | Jason Terry | DAL | -0.02 |
| 86 | 18 | Richard Hamilton | DET | -0.07 |
| 87 | 19 | Ray Allen | BOS | -0.08 |
| 95 | 20 | Brandon Roy | POR | -0.18 |
| 100 | 21 | Kirk Hinrich | WAS | -0.24 |
| 101 | 22 | Brandon Rush | IND | -0.25 |
| 104 | 23 | Stephen Jackson | CHA | -0.29 |
| 106 | 24 | Nick Young | WAS | -0.30 |
| 113 | 25 | O.J. Mayo | MEM | -0.37 |
| 114 | 26 | Jamal Crawford | ATL | -0.38 |
| 116 | 27 | Raja Bell | UTH | -0.39 |
| 117 | 28 | Jodie Meeks | PHI | -0.41 |
| 120 | 29 | Ben Gordon | DET | -0.46 |
| 124 | 30 | J.J. Redick | ORL | -0.49 |
| 133 | 31 | John Salmons | MIL | -0.60 |
| 141 | 32 | Anthony Parker | CLE | -0.69 |
| 145 | 33 | Sasha Vujacic | NJN | -0.85 |
| 146 | 34 | Anthony Morrow | NJN | -0.87 |
As other Warriors starters, except for Monta, Dorell is an average inside scorer.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | PSAMS |
| 1 | 1 | Thaddeus Young | PHI | 2.92 |
| 2 | 2 | LeBron James | MIA | 1.92 |
| 5 | 3 | Shawn Marion | DAL | 1.60 |
| 7 | 4 | Wilson Chandler | NYK | 1.34 |
| 9 | 5 | Kevin Durant | OKC | 1.24 |
| 10 | 6 | Tayshaun Prince | DET | 1.15 |
| 12 | 7 | Jeff Green | OKC | 1.08 |
| 13 | 8 | Paul Pierce | BOS | 1.06 |
| 23 | 9 | Grant Hill | PHO | 0.72 |
| 27 | 10 | Nicolas Batum | POR | 0.62 |
| 29 | 11 | C.J. Miles | UTH | 0.59 |
| 31 | 12 | Luol Deng | CHI | 0.59 |
| 35 | 13 | Rudy Gay | MEM | 0.54 |
| 47 | 14 | Andrei Kirilenko | UTH | 0.42 |
| 49 | 15 | Trevor Ariza | NOR | 0.38 |
| 51 | 16 | Danilo Gallinari | NYK | 0.35 |
| 57 | 17 | Dorell Wright | GSW | 0.28 |
| 63 | 18 | Jared Dudley | PHO | 0.24 |
| 68 | 19 | Marvin Williams | ATL | 0.18 |
| 69 | 20 | Danny Granger | IND | 0.18 |
| 70 | 21 | Carmelo Anthony | DEN | 0.14 |
| 78 | 22 | Mike Dunleavy | IND | 0.07 |
| 85 | 23 | Richard Jefferson | SAS | -0.04 |
| 88 | 24 | Gerald Wallace | CHA | -0.08 |
| 89 | 25 | Luc Mbah a Moute | MIL | -0.11 |
| 105 | 26 | Wesley Johnson | MIN | -0.30 |
| 107 | 27 | Ron Artest | LAL | -0.31 |
| 108 | 28 | Shane Battier | HOU | -0.31 |
| 123 | 29 | Ryan Gomes | LAC | -0.48 |
| 128 | 30 | Travis Outlaw | NJN | -0.52 |
| 129 | 31 | Hedo Turkoglu | ORL | -0.53 |
| 147 | 32 | Carlos Delfino | MIL | -0.90 |
David Lee is also average among PFs.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | PSAMS |
| 14 | 1 | Blake Griffin | LAC | 1.04 |
| 16 | 2 | Carlos Boozer | CHI | 0.83 |
| 25 | 3 | Lamar Odom | LAL | 0.65 |
| 28 | 4 | Kenyon Martin | DEN | 0.61 |
| 30 | 5 | Greg Monroe | DET | 0.59 |
| 33 | 6 | Andray Blatche | WAS | 0.55 |
| 36 | 7 | Amir Johnson | TOR | 0.53 |
| 37 | 8 | Carl Landry | SAC | 0.53 |
| 40 | 9 | LaMarcus Aldridge | POR | 0.51 |
| 41 | 10 | Serge Ibaka | OKC | 0.48 |
| 42 | 11 | Paul Millsap | UTH | 0.48 |
| 48 | 12 | Kevin Garnett | BOS | 0.40 |
| 52 | 13 | Zach Randolph | MEM | 0.34 |
| 60 | 14 | Kris Humphries | NJN | 0.26 |
| 61 | 15 | Josh Smith | ATL | 0.24 |
| 64 | 16 | David Lee | GSW | 0.23 |
| 65 | 17 | Pau Gasol | LAL | 0.22 |
| 71 | 18 | Amare Stoudemire | NYK | 0.13 |
| 80 | 19 | J.J. Hickson | CLE | 0.04 |
| 94 | 20 | Chris Bosh | MIA | -0.18 |
| 97 | 21 | Luis Scola | HOU | -0.21 |
| 98 | 22 | Michael Beasley | MIN | -0.23 |
| 102 | 23 | DeMarcus Cousins | SAC | -0.25 |
| 109 | 24 | David West | NOR | -0.32 |
| 112 | 25 | Brandon Bass | ORL | -0.34 |
| 126 | 26 | Dirk Nowitzki | DAL | -0.50 |
| 127 | 27 | Kevin Love | MIN | -0.52 |
| 131 | 28 | Glen Davis | BOS | -0.59 |
| 132 | 29 | Boris Diaw | CHA | -0.59 |
| 134 | 30 | Antawn Jamison | CLE | -0.60 |
| 136 | 31 | Elton Brand | PHI | -0.64 |
| 148 | 32 | Ersan Ilyasova | MIL | -1.08 |
| 150 | 33 | Channing Frye | PHO | -1.35 |
| 152 | 34 | Marcus Camby | POR | -1.56 |
Udoh didn't have enough minutes to qualify, but his PSAMS was -1.90, which would have placed him dead last.
| RANK | POS RANK | NAME | TEAM | PSAMS |
| 3 | 1 | Dwight Howard | ORL | 1.74 |
| 8 | 2 | Nene Hilario | DEN | 1.33 |
| 15 | 3 | Marcin Gortat | PHO | 0.85 |
| 21 | 4 | Andrew Bynum | LAL | 0.73 |
| 26 | 5 | Tyson Chandler | DAL | 0.62 |
| 34 | 6 | DeAndre Jordan | LAC | 0.54 |
| 45 | 7 | JaVale McGee | WAS | 0.42 |
| 62 | 8 | Emeka Okafor | NOR | 0.24 |
| 91 | 9 | Al Jefferson | UTH | -0.12 |
| 92 | 10 | Tim Duncan | SAS | -0.15 |
| 111 | 11 | Al Horford | ATL | -0.33 |
| 118 | 12 | Marc Gasol | MEM | -0.42 |
| 122 | 13 | Andrew Bogut | MIL | -0.46 |
| 125 | 14 | Joakim Noah | CHI | -0.50 |
| 135 | 15 | Brook Lopez | NJN | -0.63 |
| 138 | 16 | Kwame Brown | CHA | -0.65 |
| 140 | 17 | Roy Hibbert | IND | -0.68 |
| 143 | 18 | Chuck Hayes | HOU | -0.80 |
| 151 | 19 | Andrea Bargnani | TOR | -1.42 |
You might disagree with the notion of adjusting for position. For those who do, I've calculated SAMS, which simply uses the league average shot attempts per 40 (3.4) and FG% at the rim (65%), thus, ignoring any position dependency.
As you can see, Dwight Howard is now on top, but Thaddeus Young is (perhaps, surprisingly) still #2 and very close behind. Note that Monta Ellis still ranks ahead of David Lee even though position is not taken into account.
| RANK | NAME | TEAM | POS | SAMS |
| 1 | Dwight Howard | ORL | 5 | 2.74 |
| 2 | Thaddeus Young | PHI | 3 | 2.68 |
| 3 | Nene Hilario | DEN | 5 | 2.33 |
| 4 | Marcin Gortat | PHO | 5 | 1.85 |
| 5 | Andrew Bynum | LAL | 5 | 1.73 |
| 6 | Blake Griffin | LAC | 4 | 1.71 |
| 7 | LeBron James | MIA | 3 | 1.68 |
| 8 | Tyson Chandler | DAL | 5 | 1.62 |
| 9 | DeAndre Jordan | LAC | 5 | 1.54 |
| 10 | Dwyane Wade | MIA | 2 | 1.54 |
| 11 | Carlos Boozer | CHI | 4 | 1.50 |
| 12 | JaVale McGee | WAS | 5 | 1.42 |
| 13 | Shawn Marion | DAL | 3 | 1.35 |
| 14 | Lamar Odom | LAL | 4 | 1.32 |
| 15 | Kenyon Martin | DEN | 4 | 1.28 |
| 16 | Greg Monroe | DET | 4 | 1.26 |
| 17 | Emeka Okafor | NOR | 5 | 1.24 |
| 18 | Tony Parker | SAS | 1 | 1.23 |
| 19 | Andray Blatche | WAS | 4 | 1.22 |
| 20 | Amir Johnson | TOR | 4 | 1.20 |
| 21 | Carl Landry | SAC | 4 | 1.20 |
| 22 | LaMarcus Aldridge | POR | 4 | 1.17 |
| 23 | Serge Ibaka | OKC | 4 | 1.15 |
| 24 | Paul Millsap | UTH | 4 | 1.15 |
| 25 | Wilson Chandler | NYK | 3 | 1.09 |
| 26 | Kevin Garnett | BOS | 4 | 1.07 |
| 27 | Zach Randolph | MEM | 4 | 1.01 |
| 28 | Kevin Durant | OKC | 3 | 0.99 |
| 29 | Monta Ellis | GSW | 2 | 0.96 |
| 30 | Kris Humphries | NJN | 4 | 0.93 |
| 31 | Josh Smith | ATL | 4 | 0.91 |
| 32 | Tayshaun Prince | DET | 3 | 0.91 |
| 33 | David Lee | GSW | 4 | 0.90 |
| 34 | Pau Gasol | LAL | 4 | 0.89 |
| 35 | Al Jefferson | UTH | 5 | 0.88 |
| 36 | Tim Duncan | SAS | 5 | 0.85 |
| 37 | Jeff Green | OKC | 3 | 0.83 |
| 38 | Paul Pierce | BOS | 3 | 0.82 |
| 39 | Amare Stoudemire | NYK | 4 | 0.80 |
| 40 | J.J. Hickson | CLE | 4 | 0.70 |
| 41 | Al Horford | ATL | 5 | 0.67 |
| 42 | Russell Westbrook | OKC | 1 | 0.60 |
| 43 | Marc Gasol | MEM | 5 | 0.58 |
| 44 | Eric Gordon | LAC | 2 | 0.58 |
| 45 | Kevin Martin | HOU | 2 | 0.57 |
| 46 | Andrew Bogut | MIL | 5 | 0.54 |
| 47 | Landry Fields | NYK | 2 | 0.54 |
| 48 | Andre Iguodala | PHI | 2 | 0.52 |
| 49 | Ty Lawson | DEN | 1 | 0.51 |
| 50 | Joakim Noah | CHI | 5 | 0.50 |
| 51 | Chris Bosh | MIA | 4 | 0.49 |
| 52 | Grant Hill | PHO | 3 | 0.47 |
| 53 | Luis Scola | HOU | 4 | 0.45 |
| 54 | Michael Beasley | MIN | 4 | 0.44 |
| 55 | DeMarcus Cousins | SAC | 4 | 0.42 |
| 56 | Nicolas Batum | POR | 3 | 0.38 |
| 57 | Brook Lopez | NJN | 5 | 0.37 |
| 58 | Kwame Brown | CHA | 5 | 0.35 |
| 59 | C.J. Miles | UTH | 3 | 0.35 |
| 60 | David West | NOR | 4 | 0.35 |
| 61 | Luol Deng | CHI | 3 | 0.34 |
| 62 | Derrick Rose | CHI | 1 | 0.34 |
| 63 | Brandon Bass | ORL | 4 | 0.33 |
| 64 | Roy Hibbert | IND | 5 | 0.32 |
| 65 | Andre Miller | POR | 1 | 0.30 |
| 66 | Tyreke Evans | SAC | 1 | 0.29 |
| 67 | Rudy Gay | MEM | 3 | 0.29 |
| 68 | Kobe Bryant | LAL | 2 | 0.23 |
| 69 | Rajon Rondo | BOS | 1 | 0.21 |
| 70 | Beno Udrih | SAC | 1 | 0.21 |
| 71 | Chuck Hayes | HOU | 5 | 0.20 |
| 72 | Wesley Matthews | POR | 2 | 0.18 |
| 73 | Andrei Kirilenko | UTH | 3 | 0.17 |
| 74 | Dirk Nowitzki | DAL | 4 | 0.17 |
| 75 | Kevin Love | MIN | 4 | 0.15 |
| 76 | Trevor Ariza | NOR | 3 | 0.13 |
| 77 | Manu Ginobili | SAS | 2 | 0.12 |
| 78 | Joe Johnson | ATL | 2 | 0.11 |
| 79 | Danilo Gallinari | NYK | 3 | 0.11 |
| 80 | John Wall | WAS | 1 | 0.09 |
| 81 | Deron Williams | UTH | 1 | 0.09 |
| 82 | Glen Davis | BOS | 4 | 0.08 |
| 83 | Boris Diaw | CHA | 4 | 0.07 |
| 84 | Antawn Jamison | CLE | 4 | 0.07 |
| 85 | Darren Collison | IND | 1 | 0.05 |
| 86 | Ramon Sessions | CLE | 1 | 0.05 |
| 87 | Dorell Wright | GSW | 3 | 0.04 |
| 88 | Elton Brand | PHI | 4 | 0.03 |
| 89 | Vince Carter | PHO | 2 | 0.03 |
| 90 | DeMar DeRozan | TOR | 2 | 0.01 |
| 91 | Jared Dudley | PHO | 3 | -0.01 |
| 92 | Marvin Williams | ATL | 3 | -0.06 |
| 93 | Danny Granger | IND | 3 | -0.07 |
| 94 | Jason Richardson | ORL | 2 | -0.08 |
| 95 | Arron Afflalo | DEN | 2 | -0.10 |
| 96 | James Harden | OKC | 2 | -0.10 |
| 97 | Carmelo Anthony | DEN | 3 | -0.10 |
| 98 | Steve Nash | PHO | 1 | -0.11 |
| 99 | Kyle Lowry | HOU | 1 | -0.14 |
| 100 | Jrue Holiday | PHI | 1 | -0.14 |
| 101 | Mike Conley | MEM | 1 | -0.15 |
| 102 | Mike Dunleavy | IND | 3 | -0.18 |
| 103 | Thabo Sefolosha | OKC | 2 | -0.19 |
| 104 | Baron Davis | LAC | 1 | -0.20 |
| 105 | Jason Terry | DAL | 2 | -0.21 |
| 106 | Rodney Stuckey | DET | 1 | -0.25 |
| 107 | Richard Hamilton | DET | 2 | -0.26 |
| 108 | Ray Allen | BOS | 2 | -0.27 |
| 109 | Richard Jefferson | SAS | 3 | -0.28 |
| 110 | Gerald Wallace | CHA | 3 | -0.33 |
| 111 | Stephen Curry | GSW | 1 | -0.34 |
| 112 | Luc Mbah a Moute | MIL | 3 | -0.36 |
| 113 | Brandon Roy | POR | 2 | -0.37 |
| 114 | Jameer Nelson | ORL | 1 | -0.38 |
| 115 | George Hill | SAS | 1 | -0.40 |
| 116 | Ersan Ilyasova | MIL | 4 | -0.42 |
| 117 | Andrea Bargnani | TOR | 5 | -0.42 |
| 118 | Kirk Hinrich | WAS | 2 | -0.43 |
| 119 | Brandon Rush | IND | 2 | -0.44 |
| 120 | Raymond Felton | NYK | 1 | -0.45 |
| 121 | Stephen Jackson | CHA | 2 | -0.48 |
| 122 | Chris Paul | NOR | 1 | -0.49 |
| 123 | Nick Young | WAS | 2 | -0.50 |
| 124 | Jose Calderon | TOR | 1 | -0.54 |
| 125 | Wesley Johnson | MIN | 3 | -0.54 |
| 126 | Ron Artest | LAL | 3 | -0.55 |
| 127 | Shane Battier | HOU | 3 | -0.56 |
| 128 | O.J. Mayo | MEM | 2 | -0.57 |
| 129 | Jamal Crawford | ATL | 2 | -0.57 |
| 130 | Raja Bell | UTH | 2 | -0.58 |
| 131 | Chauncey Billups | DEN | 1 | -0.60 |
| 132 | Jodie Meeks | PHI | 2 | -0.60 |
| 133 | Ben Gordon | DET | 2 | -0.65 |
| 134 | Devin Harris | NJN | 1 | -0.65 |
| 135 | D.J. Augustin | CHA | 1 | -0.67 |
| 136 | J.J. Redick | ORL | 2 | -0.68 |
| 137 | Channing Frye | PHO | 4 | -0.68 |
| 138 | Ryan Gomes | LAC | 3 | -0.72 |
| 139 | Travis Outlaw | NJN | 3 | -0.76 |
| 140 | Mike Bibby | ATL | 1 | -0.77 |
| 141 | Hedo Turkoglu | ORL | 3 | -0.77 |
| 142 | John Salmons | MIL | 2 | -0.79 |
| 143 | Jason Kidd | DAL | 1 | -0.86 |
| 144 | Anthony Parker | CLE | 2 | -0.89 |
| 145 | Brandon Jennings | MIL | 1 | -0.89 |
| 146 | Marcus Camby | POR | 4 | -0.89 |
| 147 | Luke Ridnour | MIN | 1 | -0.96 |
| 148 | Derek Fisher | LAL | 1 | -1.04 |
| 149 | Sasha Vujacic | NJN | 2 | -1.05 |
| 150 | Anthony Morrow | NJN | 2 | -1.06 |
| 151 | Carlos Delfino | MIL | 3 | -1.15 |
| 152 | Daniel Gibson | CLE | 1 | -1.50 |
1 recs | 33 comments
im gonna guess that monta is near or at the top here. he is a very creative and athletic finisher.
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
clarified ~ @ his position! ( :
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
very interesting article Evans! way to find some stats the we SUCK AT lol ( ;
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
And at looking at stats like this, it really makes me WISH that we can understand our boy
Monta Ellis and utilize him properly! He very well could be extremely valuable to us if we can just figure that out. I would absolutely hate to see him go to another team and see his efficiency sky rocket cuz they tell him to sit half the game and cull his bad offensive habits..
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
an impressive skill in one specialized scoring aspect
doesn’t always help a team win. D.Wilkins played on numerous good but not great teams — and the good ones had other guys attending to necessities like defense and play making. J.Erving had some remarkable teammates when he was on winning teams. If S.Nash was even a average defender, his low ranking at this skill would be completely irrelevant to his value to his team in boosting their wins. Ellis could easily thrive on a better team, simply because his teammates would obscure his weaknesses and the coach would shift the shot distribution to other players. That’s another reason why Ellis’ fans should welcome the notion of him playing east of the Rockies.
the.monk - September 21, 2011
i would like to see reduced minutes monta.
i think then we see a different opinion about his game. Im sure it wont change drastically but , im gambling on the idea that him playing less minutes allows him to go full speed on both offense and defense. Less risky gambles in both stealing the ball and forcing the shot on offense. sadly we didnt do ANYTHING for our defense in the last draft.. unless jenkins or tyler have something up thier sleeves (not likely)
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 23, 2011
Really?
WARRIORS fans who are also Ellis fans (as well as fans of most of our Warriors) should welcome the thought of him succeeding on another team? I want him to do well here. Welcoming…that’s not the feeling I get when I think about Monta being traded. If he is traded, do I want him to do well? Of course. I still hope the best for a lot of former Warriors. Perhaps you’re of the opinion that “Ellis fans” are more fans of just him than of the Warriors overall. I can’t speak for all of the fans who are still in support of keeping Monta, but I don’t personally know of any fan who’s ever expressed the idea that they’re more loyal to Ellis than the whole of the team. He’s honestly not good enough for that kind of following. Very few players are.
And this is “another reason.” What exactly are the others? I’d bet that I don’t think any of them are a reason I’d like to see Monta on another team.
Brownie13 - September 23, 2011
I’ve seen a lot of people say they’ll stop being Warrior fans if Monta’s traded and root for his team.
GovernorStephCurry - September 25, 2011
How much is a lot?
3? Besides, I said I haven’t seen. I didn’t say no one has seen.
Brownie13 - September 25, 2011
All over twitter, here, facebook, at the arena.
GovernorStephCurry - September 25, 2011
Considering I go all of those places...
not seeing how that’s possible.
Brownie13 - September 28, 2011
just a couple of reasons a few of Ellis' fans
might enjoy seeing him on a successful team east of the continental divide : a greater exposure to national fans, just from the time zone advantage, and being associated with a winning team, which in the eastern conference most likely brings playoff audiences ; a better opportunity for him to reach the all star game ; Ellis could see more of his family and children, with less travel. Some of his fans probably want him to accomplish what many n.b.a. players hope for in their careers, chances to compete for a championship, and his present team will need several years of clever personnel decisions and strong coaching before that’s a realistic possibility — why shouldn’t he get his chance sooner rather than later, if he’s as good as his fans believe he is ?
the.monk - September 26, 2011
Because they're Warriors fans!
What if I said:
“I hope we trade Curry to the Heat so he can be closer to his family, be closer to winning a championship, and closer to making the All-Star game.”
You think statements like these represent the hopes of Warrior fans for Monta and Steph?
Brownie13 - September 28, 2011
Evans , i just thought it would be neat if there was one category for the warriors or team by team.
but i know u put enough work into it already, so, i can just slap myself and shut up.
clearly we gather from this that Monta is our only good inside presense! lee and dw and curry are average. Udoh must be nowhere near the radar even. If we take away Monta how would that effect our ability offensively to penetrate the defense and all the good things that usually happen with doing so?
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
wow Evanz, thanks!
Greg Monroe looks like he might have been that scoring presence in the post that we’ve been missing.
Out of curiosity, why are Monroe and Camby (among a few others) listed as PFs? Did they log more minutes a 4 than 5?
Uwe Blog - September 21, 2011 via mobile
That’s just what Hoopdata has them listed. I didn’t bother going through the whole list to make corrections, although I did correct David Lee who they listed as a center.
Evanz - September 21, 2011
Does Don Nelson run Hoopdata?!!!!!!
salary_cap - September 21, 2011
lol
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
hahahahaa!!
Duby Dub Dubs - September 23, 2011
If Monta ever learns to get himself to line a little more he'll go even higher.
I do think it’s on his agenda, but I wonder how effective he’ll be at it. Also would it lead to a drop in his FG% at the rim, seeking contact with his lack fo length will led to times he could be blocked more.
tafkasam - September 21, 2011
And here is statistical proof that David Lee was overpaid. It was a bad deal when they made the trade, and it’s still a bad deal.
doubleteapot - September 21, 2011
It's probably not fair to use one data point like this to make that conclusion
After all, he’s rated higher than Dirk. Is Dirk overpaid because of this one stat?
I mean, in general, I agree with you that Lee is overpaid. I think this adds a small piece of evidence for that, but it’s a small piece, not the whole pie.
Evanz - September 21, 2011
I love D Lee's game
and if the Warriors were still running Nelly Ball, with Nellie, I can understand signing him two offseasons ago to that big deal. But I suppose they were still transitioning and weren’t sure what direction they were going in, bu that’s on the FO, because now you got a guy that doesn’t fit with what you are trying to do and can’t move him.
salary_cap - September 21, 2011
Lee still has a skillset that needs to be used better and play to his strengths. hopefully we can do that this year.
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
but with two small guards on a team that will supposedly play more traditional, halfcourt defense-style of play, it’s hard to see whatever they do translating into success.
salary_cap - September 21, 2011
ya, i guess the true issue is on the defensive end.. i was thinking about lees ability to work the pick and roll.
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 21, 2011
well guys
I know there wasn’t a whole lot of minutes played, but I think Udoh and Lee can work pretty well together on both ends of the court
where one is strong, the other is weak, and vice versa
Duby Dub Dubs - September 23, 2011
im hearing that! hey Evans, get to work on it ( ;
PIRATEWARRIOR - September 23, 2011
Yeah, that’s what I meant. Lee was overpaid because we already had several offense-first players, and adding one more was not going to improve the offense a lot, plus his max deal eats up cap space. And of course, in the draft we chose an offense-first player as our first round draft pick (though he has some upside in defense I suppose).
doubleteapot - September 22, 2011
He has a large contract. He does not have a ‘max deal’.
jae - September 22, 2011
Okay, fine, “ridiculously large deal.”
doubleteapot - September 23, 2011
Interesting read. Thanks!
Naticus - September 21, 2011
Evanz
I checked the numbers and can not get them to come out for your two examples. My numbers are 1.44 for Parker and .106 for Nash. Following the rules of mathematics, that is what I get. Please clear my confusion.
frankenhoops - September 28, 2011
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